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Old June 21st @ 04:41 pm   #1
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From: Phoenix AZ

Motorcycle: 02 Yamaha SportCruiser 1700
Now that I know the Warrior "can" wheelie, I have been trying to learn how to do it.

Anytime I ever got the front wheel up, it was by accident... usually by revving too much and letting the clutch out too fast. This can't be the way it's done is it? That seems very uncontrollable.

The first street bike I ever got I wheelied by accident, sort of... I was at a lite waiting for the green.... I was revving the bike and my hand slipped of the clutch... the front end went up, my GF fell off the back, I fell on top of her and the bike rolled down the street about 50 feet or so.

I'm sure doing this has a lot to do with feel, but there has to be a basic formula to getting the wheel up with some sort of control right?

YouTube - Yamaha Roadstar Warrior Wheelie

I watched that video over and over and still cannot figure out what he is doing... I do see that you can shift in a wheelie... sounds like he goes from 1st to 2nd there on a pass or two.

As always, thanks in advance for the info :)

 
 
Old June 21st @ 04:58 pm   #2
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From: north carolina

Motorcycle: 2006 cbr 600rr
the best way to practice is in a parking lot at low speed let out air in your tie for better balance you want about 19-22lbs of air. then put your right passenger peg out and use that to help you it gives you a little more control for some reaon. then you can either clutch up or throttle up whatever you feel more comfortable with. i like throttling it myself and try it in 1st gear it has more torque and a better engine brake.
 
 
Old June 21st @ 05:11 pm   #3
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From: Las Vegas[Summerlin]
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Originally Posted by shortstack08 View Post
the best way to practice is in a parking lot at low speed let out air in your tie for better balance you want about 19-22lbs of air. then put your right passenger peg out and use that to help you it gives you a little more control for some reaon. then you can either clutch up or throttle up whatever you feel more comfortable with. i like throttling it myself and try it in 1st gear it has more torque and a better engine brake.
Use the left side passenger peg, the right foot should be covering the rear brake so you can control the wheelie and prevent the bike from looping.

Left foot on the passenger peg...gives you better leverage to help guide the bike, and also gives you a better feel for the angle, as your feet are spread apart (front to back).
 
 
Old June 21st @ 05:15 pm   #4
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From: Phoenix AZ

Motorcycle: 02 Yamaha SportCruiser 1700
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Originally Posted by shortstack08 View Post
the best way to practice is in a parking lot at low speed let out air in your tie for better balance you want about 19-22lbs of air. then put your right passenger peg out and use that to help you it gives you a little more control for some reaon. then you can either clutch up or throttle up whatever you feel more comfortable with. i like throttling it myself and try it in 1st gear it has more torque and a better engine brake.
Not to sound stupid, but what is clutch/throttle up?

Tire pressure, I would have never thought of that.... thanks.

With this heat, I have just been trying on the way to and from the store on my street... not traffic or anything... I have a nice little stretch of flat road outside my house, there are never any cars parked there. Figure if something happens, I am close to home... Probably not too smart huh?

I have a ball field a couple of blocks away with some huge parking lots, the police station is just another block or two from there..... Do cops hassle you if you go into a parking lot to do these things?
 
 
Old June 21st @ 06:15 pm   #5
Howie B
 
Clutch up is using the clutch to pull the wheelie by revving up the bike and letting out of the clutch, Throttle up is running the rpm's up and letting off the throttle and giving it a quick bump to bring up the front wheel. It is alot better on the tansmission to throttle it up but all bikes do not have the power to do this.
 
 
Old June 21st @ 06:23 pm   #6
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From: Phoenix AZ

Motorcycle: 02 Yamaha SportCruiser 1700
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Clutch up is using the clutch to pull the wheelie by revving up the bike and letting out of the clutch, Throttle up is running the rpm's up and letting off the throttle and giving it a quick bump to bring up the front wheel. It is alot better on the tansmission to throttle it up but all bikes do not have the power to do this.
Thank you for that explanation... Gottcha. Did you watch the video? Do you know how he is doing it? Does it sound like clutch or throttle?


Got2Go - not sure I can do that on this bike. My foot position is forward and not down on my side as with sport bikes. I kinda miss having my feel below me. Easier to control the bike IMO, with my riding position, I cannot grip my tank with my thighs as with standard bikes or sport bikes.

I don't think I will be doing any 12 O Clocks or anything, but it would be fun to get a few feet down the road on one wheel.

Advice taken and will give it a shot. Thanks
 
 
Old June 22nd @ 04:25 pm   #7
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From: Sin City

Motorcycle: 05' Gixxer600
My advice is to not do it. Dropping your bike can get expensive. Unless you have a stunt bike and do it in a controlled enviornment, don't do it.
 
 
Old June 22nd @ 04:34 pm   #8
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From: Phoenix AZ

Motorcycle: 02 Yamaha SportCruiser 1700
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My advice is to not do it. Dropping your bike can get expensive. Unless you have a stunt bike and do it in a controlled enviornment, don't do it.
I hear that. Not trying to hit any 12 o clock positions or anything. but I am sure even the little ones can get you in trouble.

I tried a couple of times, it's not going up at all. I am either not doing it right from inexperience or lack of balls.

Just found out I have a recall on the transmission, not even going to try anymore in case that thing locks up on me. I gotta get it into the shop ASAP to get that taken care of.
 
 
Old June 22nd @ 06:10 pm   #9
Howie B
 
Well to answer your question I just watched the video, he was doing clutch wheelies and I would bet he has some work done to the bike. The cruisers don't usually wheelie not because of lack of power but because of the weight and the length of the wheelbase. That was a pretty nice wheelie he did though, but I don't think I'll be trying that anytime soon on the M109R!!!
 
 
Old June 22nd @ 06:25 pm   #10
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From: Phoenix AZ

Motorcycle: 02 Yamaha SportCruiser 1700
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Well to answer your question I just watched the video, he was doing clutch wheelies and I would bet he has some work done to the bike. The cruisers don't usually wheelie not because of lack of power but because of the weight and the length of the wheelbase. That was a pretty nice wheelie he did though, but I don't think I'll be trying that anytime soon on the M109R!!!
These warriors have a ton of torque and power to them. I think with my mods I could do it. I got a Barron's Big Air Kit, PCIII, V&H Big Shots.... I think once I hit Dyno Tech up there and have my PCIII properly tuned, it will be awesome.

Now this guy looks more stock from the exhaust, bars, etc..... Also looks like he is going to go over as well. That is what I am afraid of.... getting too high and having it roll out from under me.

And um.... it's a sport cruiser... LOL ;)
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