Post up your best tips....

looking where you want to go..... looking thru the corner

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good thread!

trust your tires!

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Expect every car to pull in front of you.

Don't put yourself in a situation, leave an escape.

When riding in traffic, or city streets, never ride in a car's blindspot. I'll speed up if I have to just to keep out of harms way.

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Some of these have been said already, but:

1- Look where you want to go (dont fixate in the obstacle in your way)
2- Trust your tires more than your brakes. (in typical situations, choose a harder lean, instead of hard braking)
3- Look as far ahead as possible to recognize possible hazards on the road and plan accordingly (specially in turns)
4- Learn to use both brakes. They each have their uses, and you should be comfortable with both. Do not subscribe to the camp that says the rear brake should never be used.
5- Avoid riding too close to the person in front if you dont know their riding style.
6- Avoid putting weight on the handlebars. Use them only to steer and to balance yourself on the bike.
7- Give your bike a once-over before every ride. Tires OK ? Chain OK ? Brakes OK ? Lights OK ? Any leaks ? Oil Level ?
8- Hug the bike with your legs. It helps you feel what the bike is doing, and also helps you control it better.
9- Bah!, going to get a snack... Just dont crash, OK ?

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keep a 12 second view ahead of you and the things around you, and keep your safety bubble (varies with your speed).

Read that in a book at Barnes and Nobel on motorcycle safety. :)

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1. Loud pipes save lives!! ( Use you throttle to communicate with other drivers.)

2. I ride Offensively ( like in football, I am a running back looking for a hole.)

3. Utilize your speed to your advantage, don't allow traffic to "Wolfpack" you in or box you in.

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Always wear gear. Dress for the crash.

Find a helmet that fits your head correctly. A $600 lid that doesn't fit right, won't do any better than a $150 lid that fits the shape of your head.

Keep your skills sharp. Take the MSF experienced rider course every couple of years to stay sharp.

Know the limits of yourself and your bike. Take a trackday school to know what you & your bike can do.

Keep your body relaxed when riding in wind. When you tense up, the wind feels more severe than it really is.

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Make sure you have gas....(Eat alot of beans before every ride..)
Just because you can ride a bicycle does not mean you can ride a motorcycle, if your just starting off, start off on a smaller, lighter bike. Use your head and always focus while your riding, as soon as you loose focus, you can loose your life!! Pretend your invisable and nobody can see you, then ride accordingly....That means that you are going to stay away from everyone as much as you possibly can!

keep a bunch of BB's in your pocket and release when people are riding your ass. They will bounce and chew the hell outta their radiator. ;)

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I wouldn't say that's a "Riding tip". Nor recommended. The last thing you need is some Road Raged Cage driver chasing you around trying to run you over after you chuck shit at their car.

Just get the frick outta the way of those assholes. I fully believe in Karma, they'll get theirs. If you gotta do something, follow them to their destination and confront them when they stop (a headbutt from a fullface helmet should do it) or if they look like they'll whoop you, when they go inside, flatten their tires :-)

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I'm not sure your suggestions are much better than his in this case...

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Ok, you guys didn't really think I was serious did you? LOL ;)

But I like your idea there FZ1 LOL

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Peripheral Vision..............

One thing I DON'T like about my bike is there is no leg grip. It's hard to tell by the pics, but I have a lot of engine sticking out so it's real hard to get any grip on the tank. I think that is an important part of riding, it helps you become one with the machine IMO.

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I agree, but when I'm on the 109 it's alot different ride than when I am on the TL, therefore I got used to the fact that I don't grip the tank with my legs on the cruiser.

This is my 1st cruiser type bike. Every other bike had the foot pegs under me and not in front. It is a totally different ride that's for sure. Definitely something to get use to.

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Good info. Got2go had a list and I'd like more info on the second tip about trusting your tires over brakes, choosing a harder lean? So I won't fall if I lean more?

it is a balancing act. you can lean over further however it does take some skill and body position.

some basics

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Another big one......
Make sure you have the proper gear. Nothing is worse than amplifying the severity of an accident because you didn't have a jacket, pants, boots or gloves on. A simple 5 mile an hour accident can become a big disaster.

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Typical accident consists of someone going too hot into a corner and freaking out.

Some will do one of the following:

a- Try to break hard while at the same time keep leaning to try to make the turn. Result ? usually a low side accident.


b- Straighten up the bike (good when breaking hard), but break so hard that they either loop the bike or jack-knife the rear, or loose the front wheel under them. Another accident. Bad stuff.


As an example, if you find yourself in a similar situation (coming too fast into a turn), it is best to lean more into the turn than straightening up the bike and braking really hard.

The tires will hold.

Obviously if running out of the road in a straight line poses no danger, then brake hard and go off the road. But in most cases that is not the best option.

Keep this in mind...

The tires handle braking and turning the bike using traction.

When taking a turn without applying the brakes, 100% of the traction available to you will be used to turn the bike.

The more brake you apply in a turn, the less percentage of the total traction is available to turn the bike, as some of the traction is being used to slow the bike down.

Break enough so that cornering traction reaches its limit and you will lose that turning traction, and dump the bike.

Just to post this with some numbers, here is a general example...

You are braking in a turn using 20% of your available traction.
That leaves 80% of your traction for making the turn.

As long as less than 80% of your available traction is what is needed to keep you going in that turn, you will be ok.

But, lets say in that same turn, due to your speed, tires, road conditions, etc, you need at least 80% of your traction to be able to maintain control and make the turn...

The second you brake harder, and now are using, say, 25% of your traction for braking, that means that traction for turning is now 75%.

Since you need 80% traction for turning in this example, but you have only 75%, the tires will give out and you will probably dump the bike.

So, if you need to brake hard, or turn harder, trust your tires, turn harder.
They will be a better bet than the brakes.

Obviously, this is a general suggestion, but it applies most of the time, in most cases.

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A couple of links for some outstanding riding info and tips...
I have posted these up a long time ago but it is great info for any one wanting to improve their skills

Motorcycle Riding Skills Series, Street Bike & Motorcycle Riding Techniques at Sport Rider

Beginner Motorcycle Reviews & New Sport Bike Riders Guide at Sport Rider Magazine

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wow this is such a good thread for me. I had to turn the radio off LOL. Trust the rubbers. Got it. I get off work in downtown around 3am and like to take the 15 ramp north from primium outlet mall. U know the loop. I like to push the bike a bit. I always find myself in a problem. Either I loose speed or ain't leaning enough. I feel the front coming loose. Thanks for the links. I need that class.

Take it easy on on/off ramps and any tight turns on public roads, unless you really know them well.
These often have oil and other crap that can make you lose traction and dump the bike.

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+1 on that. So many on/off ramps to 15 have a lot of oil on them.

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Or coolant now that it's hot.

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Thats actually part of how to be a squid 101. Loud pipes are loud pipes and the sounds doesnt do anything till you are next to, or in front of the person. They are also great for attracting cops , and in the case of D&D and other stupid loud systems, they make us all look bad.

My tip, learn how to use your brakes while leaned over. MSF teaches against this , but if you learn it can easily save you fron accidents. Trail braking isn't just something needed for the racetrack.

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to each there own, I wouldn't resort to insulting you! I will do the PC thing and PM you.

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Or, you could have just PMd him in the first place, and skip the drama suspense post here...
LOL


I'm with him by the way

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terra=dirt, ground earth , smak=to hit , the name has nothing to do with being female, trust me , i'm not.

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My Bad. LOL
I keep thinking otherwise.
Now the nick makes sense.

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07 Mean Streak Special Edition - "blow"

him

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do'h, two seconds too late.

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All tha PC shit does is create a softer, more sensitive, more feminine society.

Kinda like when every kid that signs up for little league gets to play now, instead of having to try out for the team, risking maybe not being good enough to make the team, and having to learn to deal with it.

I say fuck the PM, bash him over the head with the fuckin keyboard.

(I'm joking people! Relax...)

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I LOVE my loud pipes.... even the sport bike guys wizzing by me at 100 tell me they can hear them.... So I am going to disagree with that remark terrasmak.

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I am done with this tread and drama, I joined the group for people to ride with, not to get in an internet soap opera.

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It would be beneficial for people to know about your presence when you are behind them.

In most cases where being noticed is important due to a safety issue, people will not hear your pipes until they are behind you, or next to them.

So, they will still not hear your pipes when they are in front of you about to make a quick lane change without looking or signaling.

They will hear them once you pass them, at which point they would have seen you anyway, loud pipes or not.

Get pipes for performance or cause you like the sound/look, etc.
But, not because they save anybody.

This is not to say that in some cases a loud pipe will get you noticed, but most of those would be better resolved by keeping proper distance and generally being a safe rider.

I think motorcycles with loud pipes are involved in the same number of accidents as ones with stock (quiet) pipes, from the accidents I have witnessed, seen, or heard about where this theory would apply.

Nothing beats experience and safe riding.
Don't rely on anything else.

But, this is just my opinion and it is not forced onto anybody

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"I haven't seen Yayo..."
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07 Mean Streak Special Edition - "blow"

where and when they are heard, I couldn't say as I am on the bike... but I am told by others they are quite loud.

Last Tue at Cycle Gear bike night, there was a guy that had Sampson Ground Pounders on his Harley.... made my pipes sound stock. Now those were some LOUD pipes.

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