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Old 08-11-2008, 12:01 PM   #1
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They wouldn't excuse me, but atleast they moved the date so I don't lose $3000.00 for a seminar I'm scheduled for during the original reporting time. Does anyone else think jury duty is a waste of time since our courts are filled with so many B.S. cases. I've been on a jury once before for a trial that lasted over a year, where I almost went bankrupt since I couldn't work during this time.
 
 
Old 08-11-2008, 12:06 PM   #2
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I've been summoned four times, and every time I get sent home after sitting in a room for half a day, full of other pissed off people that were summoned. Total waste of time. I may have a different attitude if I ever at least even made it to the selection process.

Next time I'm simply not going. If the summons doesnt come by registered mail, then guess what... I never received it.
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I believe you can get a written statement from your employer stating that time off is not allowed or possible...
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I've gotten summoned twice in about 12 years.
Both times I managed to get out of it.
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I got summoned when I was active duty right after Desert Storm kicked off. My Shop Chief told me to take a form letter for me to take in saying that due to national security I couldn't serve on a jury. He said that they had to honor it. The judge looked at it and said "Tough, you're staying". I ended up getting selected for the jury, and even though it was a fairly BS case (Auto Theft), it was over with in a couple of days. I wished it would have lasted longer because at the time we were working 12hr shifts (no days off) trying to get equipment ready to send to Iraq. I was more than happy to serve.

I got summoned here a couple years ago and showed up, sat around for half a day, and they released me, with a check for like $12 (if memory serves). I didn't care, I get paid if on jury duty.

So PLEASE CALL ME UP!!!!
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:44 PM   #6
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Yeah but when you're self employed, you dont get paid to be on jury duty. It can cost me several hundred dollars per day in lost income to not be here.
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Old 08-11-2008, 02:29 PM   #8
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they don't excuse you for your work not letting you off, your work HAS to let you off. Besides, although it's not the funnest thing to do, at least you didn't get drafted into the service and sent to Iraq...Things can always be worse so stop your whinning!!!
 
 
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Can't you work whenever?

pretty much, except when there are problems. If I'm gone and servers go down, its a loss of income. I cant fix servers from jury duty.
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Old 08-11-2008, 05:20 PM   #11
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Look at it this way.... you live in one of the best countries on the planet. You get to be able to do things alot of other people cannot do elsewhere. Despite all the problems we have, we're still pretty well off. It's a small price to pay to live here. And if you ever have to deal with the court system you'll be praying for people to be awake and interested in your case. Suck it up.
 
 
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Look at it this way.... you live in one of the best countries on the planet. You get to be able to do things alot of other people cannot do elsewhere. Despite all the problems we have, we're still pretty well off. It's a small price to pay to live here. And if you ever have to deal with the court system you'll be praying for people to be awake and interested in your case. Suck it up.
Tell me we are the greatest after you've spent some time living in another country and seen people that actually do more than say they're the greatest. That's what this country is becoming, all talk, no action. Tell me how wonderful it is when you sit on the jury of a high profile trial, and you're sequestored for over a year and you come close to bankrupty because youre not allowed to work, while the trial lawyers make millions. I do believe that might change your opinion just a bit.
 
 
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Tell me we are the greatest after you've spent some time living in another country and seen people that actually do more than say they're the greatest. That's what this country is becoming, all talk, no action. Tell me how wonderful it is when you sit on the jury of a high profile trial, and you're sequestored for over a year and you come close to bankrupty because youre not allowed to work, while the trial lawyers make millions. I do believe that might change your opinion just a bit.
Tell him how you really feel............................
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Like I said, I got summoned 4 times, I went 4 times. Got sent home without even getting into the selection process 4 times. Thats enough for the next 5 or 6 years as far as I'm concerned.

And as far as getting drafted for Iraq, I volunteered for it. It was pretty much over before I got out of artillery school, but I did get to go to Somalia & Haiti.
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Tell him how you really feel............................
I did, kind of. In a mellow sort of way. O.K., Jury duty blows goats!! Ya happy now.

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Tell me we are the greatest after you've spent some time living in another country and seen people that actually do more than say they're the greatest. That's what this country is becoming, all talk, no action.
This shit pissed me off. I don't know if you are a Veteran or not, but speaking for the other Veterans on the board, who have stepped up and served their country, I think that is a selfish thing to say. Boo fucking Hoo. So you had to serve a year on jury duty.

If you don't like serving jury duty as a small price to pay for living in the greatest country on the planet, please feel free to move somewhere else.

If the tables were turned and you were the one on trial, I am sure that you would appreciate having a jury that can concentrate on being impartial and taking the time to be fair instead of whining to themselves about how unfair it is that they have to do it.
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This shit pissed me off. I don't know if you are a Veteran or not, but speaking for the other Veterans on the board, who have stepped up and served their country, I think that is a selfish thing to say. Boo fucking Hoo. So you had to serve a year on jury duty.

If you don't like serving jury duty as a small price to pay for living in the greatest country on the planet, please feel free to move somewhere else.

If the tables were turned and you were the one on trial, I am sure that you would appreciate having a jury that can concentrate on being impartial and taking the time to be fair instead of whining to themselves about how unfair it is that they have to do it.
I really don't give 2 shits about you getting your panties in a twist, for me expressing an opinion different than yours, you Mydol- junkie. You stepped way over the line this time asshole by insulting my service and patriotism!! You don't speak for this veteran so why don't you Shut the Fuck up!! While you were whining about 12 hr shifts packing shit for Desert Storm, I was there in Desert Storm, (Advon Team, 2 days after a phase 1 and 2 exercise) Shield, Calm, Deny Flight, (Southern and Northern Watch, 2 deployments each) working alot more than 12 hr. shifts. When you can tell me that you've been there, done that, you can question my patriotism, until then, STFU you poser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:ang ry4:
 
 
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Thanks guys, I feel much better now.
 
 
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Tell me we are the greatest after you've spent some time living in another country and seen people that actually do more than say they're the greatest. That's what this country is becoming, all talk, no action. Tell me how wonderful it is when you sit on the jury of a high profile trial, and you're sequestored for over a year and you come close to bankrupty because youre not allowed to work, while the trial lawyers make millions. I do believe that might change your opinion just a bit.
Good for you. But you also don't have any reason to question my service, I was there. Why the fuck are you pissing and whining about pulling jury duty then? If you understand that it is your civic duty. You are the one that talked shit about the country (and it's patriotism), not me. Look at your post.
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Uh... take it to the fight club please...
Are you trying to put me on time-out, ya young whipper snapper.
 
 
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Ok, I took a deep breath.

Look, I as a vet appreciate your service, as I do all vets. I also sympathize thet you almost went bankrupt pulling jury duty. But the country didn't fail you simply because of that. It's a crapshoot when you get the notice in the mail. You might get released without doing anything, or you might be a jury on OJ's latest adventure. But don't you agree that it's a small price to pay as an American Citizen? Do I think that there should be more compensation, YES! I think that your compensation should equal your last years income per day. But that is WAY out of our control.

I'm big enough to say "Sorry", and like I said, I didn't know your service record. Let's keep this to the judicial system, and not bash America as a whole.
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Its nice being a cali resident and not living there, no jury duty for me.
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Old 08-12-2008, 07:50 AM   #27
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Les is technically a Cali resident, but had to get a NV license when she got her M endorsement, so I don't know if she would get called or not.
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Les is technically a Cali resident, but had to get a NV license when she got her M endorsement, so I don't know if she would get called or not.
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Ok, I took a deep breath.

Look, I as a vet appreciate your service, as I do all vets. I also sympathize thet you almost went bankrupt pulling jury duty. But the country didn't fail you simply because of that. It's a crapshoot when you get the notice in the mail. You might get released without doing anything, or you might be a jury on OJ's latest adventure. But don't you agree that it's a small price to pay as an American Citizen? Do I think that there should be more compensation, YES! I think that your compensation should equal your last years income per day. But that is WAY out of our control.

I'm big enough to say "Sorry", and like I said, I didn't know your service record. Let's keep this to the judicial system, and not bash America as a whole.
There's a difference between bashing America and pointing out the error in such a subjective statement like "We are the greatest". Our shit doesn't smell like roses, while the rest of the world's smells like shit. We have strengths and weaknesses just like everybody else. Also I don't ever question a person's patriotism, since that is also subjective, but I will raise the B.S. flag when mine is blasted without facts or merit.
 
 
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Well, when you come out saying that other countries are better, you asked for it. I understand where you were coming from, but we were discussing the judicial process, and you went in another direction by saying that another country was better. You bet I'm going to defend the USA...still

Trust me, if the posts were switched, I would have reacted the same way you did. I get hot when regular American citizens bash their country without doing something to change it. But as I said, I didn't know your service record. But I still can't believe the reservations you have against America having served your country proudly.


Anyway, water under the bridge to me. You ready to hold hands and sing Kumbaya?
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Nobody is thrilled with pulling jury duty but instead of complaining about the system, isn't it better to be a part of it and have your voice heard? I agree that there isn't always justice, but it takes people like us to hopefully make any kind of change no matter how small it may be.

The thing about questioning anyones AD time should never occur especially between members of the service. Just because members have deployed, it takes the whole force to get the job done. I myself have never had the opportunity to deploy, but being deployed doesn't make anyone a better service member than someone else who hasn't. It's all a team effort.
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Nobody is thrilled with pulling jury duty but instead of complaining about the system, isn't it better to be a part of it and have your voice heard? I agree that there isn't always justice, but it takes people like us to hopefully make any kind of change no matter how small it may be.

The thing about questioning anyones AD time should never occur especially between members of the service. Just because members have deployed, it takes the whole force to get the job done. I myself have never had the opportunity to deploy, but being deployed doesn't make anyone a better service member than someone else who hasn't. It's all a team effort.
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Is it really better to be part of the system and have your voice heard? Your husband blasting me for expressing my opinion, which differs from his, shows me that is not the case. As far as jury duty, if our legal system worked in the way I feel our founding fathers wanted it to, I'd be honored to do so; but unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

The system has become so complicated with lawyers playing the aces up their sleeves, instead of playing the cards in their hands. Who ever has the most aces, wins not who is right. I don't know if you've been on a jury that might have let a criminal go, that you believed was guilty due to a lack of evidence; only to have that individual commit a more serious crime later, but I have and it's not a pleasant feeling to live with. So if some folks want to denegrate my so-called duty because my opinions differ due to different experiences, feel free to do so, it makes little difference to me because I know that I take my duty very seriously and don't want to be put in a position to judge another, since most likely I will not have all of the facts.

P.S. I never denegrated Pat's service, nor any other AD member, I simply explained what I was doing at the time he said he was doing jury duty and working 12 hr. shifts and I defended myself when he questioned mine.
 
 
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See, now if you would have explained the reasoning behind your feelings (towards the judicial system and not the country as a whole) in the first post about the country, I would have honored it (and probably agreed). But as I said before, when you post how "this country is all talk and no action", I took it as an attack on the country, and justifiably retaliated. You really can't blame me.

Here's an idea that has crossed my mind recently, run for a political position so you can have a hand in making a difference. I'd vote for you. Honest.
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See, now if you would have explained the reasoning behind your feelings (towards the judicial system and not the country as a whole) in the first post about the country, I would have honored it (and probably agreed). But as I said before, when you post how "this country is all talk and no action", I took it as an attack on the country, and justifiably retaliated. You really can't blame me.

Here's an idea that has crossed my mind recently, run for a political position so you can have a hand in making a difference. I'd vote for you. Honest.
See, if'n you were patient I would have gotten around to it eventually. One more slight correction I didn't say "this country IS all talk no action" what I said is " this country is BECOMING all talk, no action". I know it sounds like semantics, but it isn't.

As far is politics, thanks for the vote, but politics is not my strong suit, nor do I feel it's the answer, since few politicians act more than they talk, agreed ? So what can be done? The same thing that was done in 1776, albeit with different strategies, since even I don't what to fight our military with a musket.

The people need to get pissed and let the goobermint know that they work for us.

and trust me, Sen. Reid, Sen. Ensign, and Congressman Porter hear from me on a monthly basis and I'm not as diplomatic as I am here.
 
 
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