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Old 09-02-2008, 10:38 PM   #1
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I seen a few youtube and we always lose. A zo6 beats us in every way. On a track or the canyon. What's gives
 
 
Old 09-02-2008, 10:50 PM   #2
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4 tires grip better than 2, and cars are much more stable.

And if you think an exotic car can embarass a sportbike, you should see what a shifterkart can do... for less money.
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:06 AM   #3
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Its all about the rider, yes with perfect rider and perfect driver the bike will win. But for the most part, its easier to drive a car fast over a bike. Yes a Z06 will take a bike on top end.
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Old 09-03-2008, 06:05 AM   #4
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Its all about the rider, yes with perfect rider and perfect driver the bike will win. But for the most part, its easier to drive a car fast over a bike. Yes a Z06 will take a bike on top end.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:14 AM   #5
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I have seen videos where a busa beat a z05 and a viper both from a dead stop and roll on speeds.

Here's one



Ducati 999 faster than a lambo



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Old 09-03-2008, 11:57 AM   #6
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top speed the lambo will win no problems, even a Bentley will do less than 5sec 0-60mph and a top speed of 200 mph...
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:06 PM   #7
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new duc new lambo. bike wins in all but braking.
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:27 PM   #8
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well all the videos I saw were of a 600. I know they have top end but 1/4 should b in our facer and also on a course. My buddy owns both a gixxer and a sti. He says his car is better on the track. I don't c how. Our bikes pull and pull hard. I seen. Videos of guys taking turns at 120+. Granted they ain't as curvy as other car type curbs but idk.
 
 
Old 09-03-2008, 03:55 PM   #9
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tell me, what does a donkey walk in the quarter mile?
 
 
Old 09-03-2008, 04:28 PM   #10
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top speed the lambo will win no problems, even a Bentley will do less than 5sec 0-60mph and a top speed of 200 mph...
But at what length? A souped up busa has been at 215mph, there was a guy here in Phoenix that got his lambo up to 214-215mph but it took him a while and a few tried to get it there.

and when you take price into account... a bike wins hands down!
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Old 09-03-2008, 04:29 PM   #11
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tell me, what does a donkey walk in the quarter mile?
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Old 09-03-2008, 06:41 PM   #12
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ill give that a try!
 
 
Old 09-03-2008, 06:48 PM   #13
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I'm not understanding these wierd sayings. . This is my thought on it: off the ( reaction time) they get us but we own then on second gear. 1/4 , we win but if it were something longer like maybe a mile. Then it b tight. Assuming an exotica. Naw on a curb road. Its a toss up idk since I mainly drag race
 
 
Old 09-03-2008, 07:34 PM   #14
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But at what length? A souped up busa has been at 215mph, there was a guy here in Phoenix that got his lambo up to 214-215mph but it took him a while and a few tried to get it there.

and when you take price into account... a bike wins hands down!
yeah but here you're talking about a mod busa, how many of them do you know that goes 215 REAL mph ?

we will get to 150 fast on the bike ( i was at 125 mph at the end of the 1/4 mile the first 3 time I did that) , but them it takes times to get from 150 to 185. (speedo reading....) once I was going to one of my LDR to AZ, and I couple with a BMW was driving at real good pace, we played a little together and I was amazed how fast the guy was pulling from 120 mph up.

also the T-rex is very capable in the twisties, on straight, we'll leave them behind, in the twisties, that's a different story. on another trip to Sedona, a guy I know a little joined me with is T-rex. the guy is not a pilot BUT once in the mountain, I really pushed it and the guy was right on my a$$. 2 other guys on bike we're following us and we can see on the video that it was knee down most of the time.
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Old 09-03-2008, 07:38 PM   #15
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here are the specs for the lambo, top speed the lambo will win unless the bike is modified. at the 1/4 I'll eat him for breakfast.
Lamborghini Gallardo 5.0 Litre PerformanceMaximum Speed197 mph - (Man)Maximum Speed197 mph - (Auto)0 - 62 mph (acceleration)3.9 seconds - (Man)0 - 62 mph (acceleration)3.9 seconds - (Auto)

I would think that the Porshe 911 GTII as a better handling than the Lambo. here the specs of the Porshe:
Manual
Engine Cylinders 6
Displacement 3.6 liters
Engine layout Rear engine
Horsepower 530 hp
Torque 505 lb.-ft.
@ rpm 2,200 - 4,500 rpm
Compression ratio 9.0 : 1
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Performance Top Track Speed 204 mph
0-60 mph 3.6 s
0-100 mph 7.4 s
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:38 PM   #16
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ok look, none of the videos provided were on a track! they are on a freeway! so 1/4 mile dont mean shit! at a dead starta car with good power will get a better launch. but a bike will dominate top end, given its a drag race on a strip! from a rolling start, a bike, would suck a vette in and shit it out, (talking from experience) never raced a lambo though. the vette i raced was a yellow zo6. it didnt catch me! i hit 155 and he was way behind me. and if you want to drag race, why the f#@k did you get a 600rr?
 
 
Old 09-03-2008, 08:39 PM   #17
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Naw on a curb road?????????????????? what does this mean? SPELL CHECK, FOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
 
Old 09-04-2008, 03:38 PM   #18
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yeah but here you're talking about a mod busa, how many of them do you know that goes 215 REAL mph ?

we will get to 150 fast on the bike ( i was at 125 mph at the end of the 1/4 mile the first 3 time I did that) , but them it takes times to get from 150 to 185. (speedo reading....) once I was going to one of my LDR to AZ, and I couple with a BMW was driving at real good pace, we played a little together and I was amazed how fast the guy was pulling from 120 mph up.

also the T-rex is very capable in the twisties, on straight, we'll leave them behind, in the twisties, that's a different story. on another trip to Sedona, a guy I know a little joined me with is T-rex. the guy is not a pilot BUT once in the mountain, I really pushed it and the guy was right on my a$$. 2 other guys on bike we're following us and we can see on the video that it was knee down most of the time.
but on that same note... how many lambo's do you see on the road?

yeah, you may see more vette's, or even vipers but still... when you take into consideration of price.... 14k vs what... 70k for a vette, 90k for a viper or what 200k for a lambo.
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:42 PM   #19
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yo broc! my fuckin donkey is slower than shit. jumpin on the rocket to do mach mahfukkin 1!
 
 
Old 09-05-2008, 01:07 AM   #20
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ok first off. Its my iPhone that spell checks and it sucks. The letters r small and sensative . Second . I ment to buy a 600 cuz of the fun facter at rpm levels plus I want to hit the CURVES son. I was just speaking on my exp with drag racing. I c a heck of a lot of lambos on the strip LOL and the videos I seen r of a zo6 spanking on 600s.
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Old 09-05-2008, 08:19 AM   #21
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My advice... don't worry about the hardware, optimize the software. In other words, if you want to be fast... become a better rider. You're probably asking yourself right now... "wtf does this have to do with a car being faster than a bike?". Well, as others have mentioned, this debate is totally dependent on the experience level of the participants; most notably the rider. So... how do you become a better rider?

First off, get a few more miles under your belt and take the Lee Parks ARC. Info is here:

Lee Parks Design, Total Control ARC Info

After you do this class, take one of the trackday schools like the Jason Pridmore STAR School or even the Freddie Spencer school if you've got the $$$.

Jason Pridmore's STAR Motorcycle School

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If you can't afford a full-blown track school, then sign up for one of the trackdays offered here in Vegas/Pahrump that offer a novice class like Fasttrack:

Fastrack Riders

After you take a track school, do as many trackdays as time and your wallet allows.

What I'm outlining here is a structured way to become a faster and safer street rider. Tapping the unleashed potential in your bike is NOT as simple as just having the "balls" to go faster. You really need to build a solid foundation as a rider by getting as much education and practice in a controlled environment as possible.

Car vs. Bike will always be an interesting debate, but the bottom line is that an average driver (in a high-performance vehicle like a Z06 Vette or Lambo Gallardo) will beat an average rider.
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yo broc! my fuckin donkey is slower than shit. jumpin on the rocket to do mach mahfukkin 1!
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:50 PM   #23
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i smacked it, smacked it good. it bucked me off and said hee haaaaa heeee haaa
 
 
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ok this thread has run its course. we should close it
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Old 09-06-2008, 02:09 AM   #26
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That Zo6 has a lower power to wiegt ratio,but it has four times the contact patch to apply more power fast their tires are 275 x 2 i believe compared to 190 single tire.If you ever drove one you will know about this cheater from gm on the center console is a button turn on&off the trac system in my opionon it would be alot closer a race with it off.What this trac does is it measures the body roll, throttle postion, what gear you are in and also if either tire is losing traction. It will then adjust the power distrubution electronicly in the rear differential! This is not fair to use as it removes the common over powering you would normally encounter driving this powerful of a machine. i would like to see them turn that off throw a slipper clutch in the bike and let's see what happens then!!

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Old 09-06-2008, 02:21 AM   #27
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tires are 275 x 2 i believe compared to 190 single tire.
325 rears , 275 fronts, they are a brutally fast cars though. 10.99 is the fastest 1/4 time posted by a stock Z06, 600's will beat that. On the roadcourse with equally perfect drivers the bike will edge the Vette out, but not by much.
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Old 09-06-2008, 06:51 AM   #28
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fuck a vette, domestic pieces of shit! now what bitches!?
 
 
Old 09-06-2008, 09:47 PM   #29
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I do recall seeing a little bottom for trac control. I have the same on my car.
Thanks for the links. I'm going to check them out. I'd love to do a track lesson day.
 
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