The topic briefly came up last Tuesday evening about how can the State of Nevada make it permissable for motorcyclist to split lanes, like California.

Below is a link to a website dedicated to help put lane sharing on the state ballot. It would be nice to get this up and running again after it failed last go around. I'm all for it.

http://www.laneshare.org/index.html

I have to admit, even though it's illegal to do so here in Nevada, I will do it from time to time. Especially along the strip. I have been fortuanate to get a lot of my lane splitting experience riding in Southern Ca. But here's a short 4 minute clip I made during this past winter. It would be about a 15 minute clip if I didn't split.

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With the drivers and their lack of attention? Hell I want as much room around me as possible.

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i dont mind doing that. i have only done it once out here, but i would never do it on the strip. thats probally the worst place to lane split.

Ur nutz bro some of them cars you went between you couldn't fit a fart trough. Be safe you got great control of the bike but there seem to be WAY to many other factors you don't have control of in the video and all it takes is 1 of them factors to kill you.

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lets seeeee, the first time I ever lane split, I ended up next to a highway patrol officer...

The second time I split the woman in the van who had her left blinker on, decided, nope, not my turn yet, and yanked her wheel back into which was my lane. If I wasnt riding the dots, she would have fucking owned me. Oh yeah, she had jesus stickers all over her car too. Im sure god wouldnt approve of her driving.

I would not condone, nor suggest lane splitting in this town. In the 5 years ive been on these roads, snow, rain, wind and all. Nothing compares to the handicapped ass drivers we have behind the wheels here. I also believe that if this law were to pass, you would have MANY more accidents on the roads..

There are times I would love to lane split, and when it deems necessary I will..

I wouldnt make it a habit...

my 2 cents =]

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Peeps in Cali are used to lane splitting and they still take out riders. I will still lane split in Cali but only when the traffic is stopped or at a crawl. I never split lanes here. Too much risk for the benefit.

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This is something that I would never do, I don't think that its safe. Sorry.

The strip? Probably the last place you should be splitting lanes.

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Both the HURT and FARS reports showed that California has 30% less rider fatalities due to rear-ending compared to other states, thanks to lane sharing... and that it is slightly safer overall (taking everything into account) to split lanes as opposed to not

Lane splitting is not for everyone, but to come out and say it's not safe is incorrect. You can do it safetely, it just takes practice because it requires knowledge, skill and great concentration. Almost becomes an artform. But studies have actually shown that it's safer for bikes to keep moving rather than being sandwiched between two vehicles, especailly during stop n go traffic. It may be a minor fender bender for cagers, but as you may know, we have no buffer or crumple zones. A rear ender will most likely mean a trip to the hospital. It would just be nice option to have here in Nevada, just like California.

watch this video.

Lane Splitting Is Legal, Cause The News Says So Video by Your Name - MySpace Video

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valid points!!

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Dont believe everything you read on the net or even what the news says. Lane splitting wasnt legalized for safety in california. It was legalized because of the days of aircooled engines and traffic.

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if you were overheating, id blow you. for safety's sake.

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Like I have posted, there have been studies done to prove that it is safer for bikes to keep moving rather than being at the mercy of some idiot who may or maynot see you and rear end your ass.

The Hurt report is one of the most reputable studies ever conducted regarding motorcycle safety and statistics. To go out and say that don't believe what they say is irresponsible as a motorycyclist. And the state of California did not legalize it strictly on the base that the bikes were overheating, rather for the proven fact that studies have shown, when done correctly, it's safer and more time, fuel and energy sufficient for everyone. And if you ever travel abroad, it is legal in many countries, especially in Europe.

Nick Ienatsch. Sport Riding Techniques
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...understand that the California Highway Patrol (CHP) regards lane sharing as a “good thing” because it reduces congestion. Every rider I know is thankful for lane sharing, so it’s important that we don’t abuse it to the point we can no longer enjoy it legally.

You may have read Nick Ienatsch's article about the "Pace" a very well written article about advance riding technique and riding within your limits.

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Everyone is entitled to their opionion. Thanks for sharing the info. I still feel that it is unsafe and will not do it.

Absolutely, if you don't feel comfortable doing it, even if it's permissable such as in California, you don't have to.

But I will say this, many riders when stopped like to keep their bikes in gear, just in the unlikely event they need to get out of the way because some cager doesn't see you and might rear end your ass. This in itself, your only corrective action is to go split between the traffic to get out the way, so at least you should get some experience doing so that you can familiarlize yourself on what it's like to do so. Don't ask me how you're going to get expereince when you legally can't do it here in Nevada, but it's always a nice skill to have under your rider resume if the situation calls for it, especially if it's an emergency.

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I love lane splitting! Ask got2go about our lane splitting experience in CA... that was fuggin awesome! I've been known to do it from time-to-time here as well.

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though keeping a bike moving is alot safer, that doesnt make lane splitting, safe, by any means at all! it doesnt matter how good of an ART FORM you have, its not as safe as your saying it is.

it would be great to have the option to lane split. I NEVER split traffic now because it's not worth the ticket but there have been many times I would of loved to. I'm ALL for it, more options for me on the road. By the way, if you don't think it's safe, you don't have to do it, but wouldn't it be nice to have that option without getting a ticket. Actually my first ticket on a motorcycle when I was 16 was for splitting lanes, haven't done it since then.

yes, the option would be nice. im not saying im not for it. he said it was safe...... its not. but then again if you sneeze to hard you can kill yourself! go figure.

I would not do that on a regular basis, too many taxi drivers / topurist etc... that will change lane without looking/caring. but on hwy stop and go traffic or at a stop light I would.

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Nice to see that mostly everyone agrees that it would be a nice option to have. But it is not for everyone! For mainly the reason below.

Lane splitting is an art form and the skills required to split safely are clearly acquired over time and miles. The rider that splits traffic must have a focus level far beyond 100% and they must perceive the possible hazards long before they actually occur or they are toast

So yes, I will agree that it could be unsafe for some riders. But if this ever makes it on the ballot, I hope every rider votes for it.

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I seriously doubt nevada lawmakers would pass a law to allow a riding tecnique that was based on "artform" to be safe. Most laws are passed to be applicable to the lowest common denominator. With the days of watercooling and increased efficiency air cooled bikes not much of a chance to pass the law on that ground either.

If it was legal would I do it? You bet, but only where I was less likely to be sideswiped. Only in heavy stop and go traffic AND other than the strip where people are to wrapped up in their cell phones, good chance of them having a buzz and looking at the pretty lights..

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Again, a lot of you are not reading or getting the right information why lane sharing is a good thing., but rather just giving their opinion without objectively learning why it's considered safer than just being sandwiched between a bunch of cagers. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but lane sharing has been studied and have facts and figures to back it up that it is beneficial for bikers and cagers and energy efficient. There have been several states, such as Washington, New Jersey, and Texas serously considering lane sharing from these facts. That's why the state of California allows it to be permissable, and the California Highway Patrol is one of the organizations that endorses it as well.

Both the HURT and FARS reports showed that California has 30% less rider fatalities due to rear-ending compared to other states, thanks to lane sharing... and that it is slightly safer overall (taking everything into account) to split lanes as opposed to not

Link to Lane sharing... please read.

http://www.laneshare.org/index.html

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That it is why it is safer for a motorcyclist to split and go by these people who arenn't paying attention, rather than letting them be at your mercy hoping that they see you and won't rear end you fro not paying attention! Remember, a motorcylist is harder to see in congested traffic, as you will just simply blend in with all the larger vehicles. You actually become invisible. They will most likely stay within their lanes at slow speeds but sometimes they will not be looking directly in front of them 100%, where you will most likely be. Have you ever seen a woman put on makeup while driving during congestion, or people reading the paper or their documents, texting, eating, etch. Best to just zip on by them my friends.

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I love lane splitting...

It's just not for everyone


I hope it gets passed here in NV it would be nice to have the option on a long hot day

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+1
I'm for it!

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got my vote.

As a recent transplant from SoCal, I gotta say that I miss the legal option of splitting lanes. I can also agree that from what I have witnessed in 2 short months on the streets of Vegas, cars are not looking for bikes AT ALL - they aren't even looking out for each other.... But I'm not going to move here and immediately rag on the drivers of LAS. However, I fully support any move to make it legal here.
1. It's an option and not mandatory. If you don't want to split, don't.
2. It is safer, if the rider is responsible and focused. No blasting down the dots on one wheel...
3. Riding with traffic inevitably puts you in the blind spot of a driver. Staying 3-5 mph faster than everyone else is an advantage.
4. It is really great to go to the front of the line at a red light.

My $.02

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As a former So Cal Resident I agree I do miss it

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I didn't actually get through ALL of the comments on here, but IMHO, lane splitting is absolutely fine if done cautiously and safely. There are risks to riding a motorcycle, period, and I think some aspects of lane splitting actually make it safer for us. For instance, if it was legal to lane split, we could ride up to the front of the traffic at red lights. When the light turns green, we are first to go and are out of the traffic... no cars around us equals safer riding. Second, for those of you who argue the strip is the worst place to lane split I say, WTF? You are going between STOPPED cars in most cases... how dangerous can that be, especially if you are going slow? Even if the traffic is moving a little bit, it's still slow enough that lane splitting is safe.

I have done lane splitting in all sorts of circumstances all over Cali, and even here in Vegas when circumstances got me frustrated... yes, I have splitted on the strip. But, then again, I'm the one who doesn't understand when people say that traffic here sucks and drivers are crazy. I have no problem riding the bike around town and have never had problems with drivers. I think it's all your perspective. I come from WAY higher traffic areas with WAY crazier drivers. Try driving or riding in New Jersey or New York. Or getting to work in the Bay Area. That's where my experience comes from... Vegas is a cakewalk, in my opinion.

I'm sorry if this post rubs somebody the wrong way... it's just something I"m passionate about, and I think it sucks if people won't support a law that most want. You can support it, get it passed, and still not do it if you think it's not safe. A law doesn't say you HAVE to do it, it just says you CAN.

Off my soapbox... VFRChick OUT!

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My thoughts exactly on all points! Great post!

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Ok twist my arm...

For $.25 here is my camera mount test.... On topic because there is a little bit o' splitting.



And a later test the blew the camera off...



My $.25

I like you VFRChick, we share the same passion and ideas for splitting.

Nice video! Thanks for posting.

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there is a time , place and speed (as of not blasting between carsfor that.

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Just a note, if you are lane splitting and someone intentionally or unintentionally hits you it is YOUR FAULT. I was passing on a 2x size lane and the guy drove right into me and because the position I was in is not technically a lane, the crash was my fault even though he did not signal and just drove right into me. This is GREAT if the law says it is ok, but until then you are taking a BIG risk.

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nevada needs to step up

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Did I miss something? It doesn't have anything to do with us, thats Arizona.

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+1

On a side note & another thing to keep in mind, although a little far fetched, if splitting lanes was legalized in the state of Nevada, maybe other vehicles will adapt and learn to see us more as they do in CA. My experience in CA out at Big Bear, when your coming up behind cars, they actually pull over for you and let you by. That, I promise you, has come from years of legally splitting lanes!! Just another point to add to the subject, thats all!! CARRY ON

I figure I will chime in on this one. I like lane splitting. I do it. Often. I see nothing wrong with that. The lanes of the roads in this town are huge, if I can fit and not sit in traffic I see nothing wrong. I have come up on a highway patrol or metro on a few occasions, even passed them once or twice and gotten lucky.

I agree that legalized lane splitting promotes motorcycle awareness. You get far fewer idiots trying to jockey for position with you in california, and I attribute this to the fact that they know you will just be in the front at the next light.

To the OP, if you know of anything else that I can help with to help get this on the ballot do not hesitate to ask. I truly believe that this would reduce motorcycle accidents, along with making my life easier.

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Yes, that is true. Angeles Crest Hwy, Big Bear, Palomar Mt, are the places I ride 2-3 times a year and the cagers do pull over. A very nice courtesy by the drivers.

I heard that there is something in the works from someone I know. But it's just hearsay and won't be able to confirm until this weekend, hopefully I'll have good news and I can provide more info.

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