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Old 07-06-2009, 07:16 PM   #1
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I found this on the internet...

Report Conclusions: Findings from the FARS (Fatality Analysis Reporting System) data illustrate possible reasons for motorcyclist fatalities in single vehicle motorcycle crashes:

Helmet use among fatally injured motorcyclists below 50 percent

More motorcyclist fatalities are occurring on rural roads

High blood alcohol levels are a major problem among motorcycle operators

Half of the fatalities are related to negotiating a curve prior to the crash

Over 80 percent of the fatalities occur off roadway

Undivided roadways account for a majority of the fatalities

Almost two thirds of the fatalities were associated with speeding as an operator contributing factor in the crash

Almost 60 percent of motorcyclist fatalities occur at night

*Collision with a fixed object is a significant factor in over half of the fatalities

Braking and steering maneuvers possibly contribute for almost 25 percent of the fatalities

More riders age 40 and over are getting killed

Almost one third of the fatally injured operators did not have a proper license


I also read that the # of fatalities have more than doubled in the last 8-10 years!
 
 
Old 07-06-2009, 07:48 PM   #2
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how many were caused by a car or truck vs a motorcyle those stats are for single vehicle crash
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:29 PM   #3
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Got this from the Nevada DMV.....

"In 1999, the number of licensed motorcyclists in Nevada was nearly 75,000. In the same year, there were 14 motorcycle fatalities and 691 injuries in 615 reported crashes. When motorcycle related crashes occurred, 75% of them involved a collision with another vehicle, usually a passenger car.[/U] More than 50% of all crashes involving a motorcycle and passenger car occurred because the motorist did not see the motorcycle, or did not see it soon enough to respond."
 
 
Old 07-06-2009, 10:35 PM   #4
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good post red.
 
 
Old 07-07-2009, 04:26 AM   #5
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I had posted an excel file given to me by NHP about this. It had every single motorcycle accident on it for 3 years with almost every stat imaginable(reasonable stats)
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:32 AM   #6
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I found this on the internet...

Report Conclusions: Findings from the FARS (Fatality Analysis Reporting System) data illustrate possible reasons for motorcyclist fatalities in single vehicle motorcycle crashes:

Helmet use among fatally injured motorcyclists below 50 percent

More motorcyclist fatalities are occurring on rural roads

High blood alcohol levels are a major problem among motorcycle operators

Half of the fatalities are related to negotiating a curve prior to the crash

Over 80 percent of the fatalities occur off roadway

Undivided roadways account for a majority of the fatalities

Almost two thirds of the fatalities were associated with speeding as an operator contributing factor in the crash

Almost 60 percent of motorcyclist fatalities occur at night

*Collision with a fixed object is a significant factor in over half of the fatalities

Braking and steering maneuvers possibly contribute for almost 25 percent of the fatalities

More riders age 40 and over are getting killed

Almost one third of the fatally injured operators did not have a proper license


I also read that the # of fatalities have more than doubled in the last 8-10 years!
Yup...found the same type of info last night. This is excellent info. My opinion is that motorcycling like aviation is extremely unforgiving. Knowledge, experience, skills and a commitment to personal safety can help keep you alive. Understanding how,when and why fatalities occur is critical to survival on the street, track and trail. There is always a certain amount of risk that CAN be managed with commitment and education however, there is also a certain amount of risk that CANNOT be managed, some believe this to be fate (when its your time,its your time). My thoughts overall are that regardless of our experience level and skills we should always continue to educate ourselves and improve our skills. I have not been apart of this forum long. I have been on one ride with the group at Red Rocks. I am proud to be associated with a sfety oriented group that is actively involved in rider education and a commitment to safety.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:20 PM   #7
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Marine motorcycle deaths top their Iraq combat fatalities - CNN.com
Found this from 2008. It would appear that it is more dangerous to ride a motorcycle than it is to fight a war (statistically).
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:46 PM   #8
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What we do is inherently dangerous. So is riding a bicycle down Decatur. We can do a lot to shift the odds more in our favor. The biggest thing is to educate ourselves and get better at not hitting things, running off the road and avoiding inattentive cagers. In 2007, for the first time in a decade, The percentage of single vehicle fatalities was over 50%. That means that the rider died because of their own mistake.

This is a book, not just a thread, but we could analyze this forever. Ultimately we can only improve what we can control...ourselves!
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:01 PM   #9
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what we do is inherently dangerous. So is riding a bicycle down decatur. We can do a lot to shift the odds more in our favor. The biggest thing is to educate ourselves and get better at not hitting things, running off the road and avoiding inattentive cagers. In 2007, for the first time in a decade, the percentage of single vehicle fatalities was over 50%. That means that the rider died because of their own mistake.

This is a book, not just a thread, but we could analyze this forever. Ultimately we can only improve what we can control...ourselves!
damn right!
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:21 AM   #10
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to many riders out there trying to look cool insted of paying attention to what they are doing every day i see riders changing lanes without signals doing stupid stunts and just acting like idiots and dont get me started on the people that txt and drive if you want to write buy a type writer
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Old 07-08-2009, 02:29 PM   #11
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I am a firm believer that we as Motorcyclist have to take a PROACTIVE approach to riding.

WE have to make our presence known.
WE have to be as visible as possible and stay out of peoples blind spots.
WE have to anticipate what the inattentive cager is going to do.
WE have to basically be almost psychic when it comes to riding on the street!

Start to really learn and process what is going on around you. I find that if I really look I can more times than not, tell if someone is gonna make a moron move. I make sure that if I am coming up on an intersection, that I make sure to get there attention. I will (yes) rev my bike to get there attention.

I have been told by some cagers that I ride aggressively or that my bike is annoying. My comment is always...... " You looked up and saw me, didn't you?" I then smile and ride away.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:20 PM   #12
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...I have been told by some cagers that I ride aggressively or that my bike is annoying. My comment is always...... " You looked up and saw me, didn't you?" I then smile and ride away.
Here is an article which essentially debunks the "Loud Pipes" myth:

Loud Pipes Save Lives or The Madness Behind the Myth

And a very relevant excerpt:

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...According to the Hurt report is was determined that 77% of motorcycle accident hazards come from in front of the rider, while only 3% approach from the rear. What's interesting here is that motorcycle pipes direct the vast majority of sound backwards where the least danger is, so for loud pipes to be truly effective safety measures they would need to be pointed forward where the greatest danger lies. That doesn't do much to support the proposition that loud pipes are a safely factor. The other serious problem I have with this supposition is that it is, at best, a secondary safety measure, not a primary or proactive measure. Assuming that the other driver will act with caution once you have identified your presence by the sound of your bike roaring up from behind is foolhardy at best. That's like assuming that if you were to wear a bright yellow safety vest, or full riding gear, you can relax because now you're protected! Lets face it, the best protection you have is that 3 pounds of grey matter between your ears, that and a constant awareness of your surrounding, and acting on the supposition that the rest of the motorists in the world are all idiots and its up to you and you alone to ensure your safety on the road. Relying on the other guy to act reasonably or safely just because you're making more noise than those around you is just asking for trouble!

As Neal Stephenson puts it in 'Zodiac' (The words in brackets [ ] were added by me.):

" First, a word on motorcycle safety:
If you've put yourself in a position where someone has to see [hear] you in order for you to be safe -- to see [hear] you, and to give a f**k -- you've already blown it." ...
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:05 PM   #13
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Here is an article which essentially debunks the "Loud Pipes" myth:

Loud Pipes Save Lives or The Madness Behind the Myth

And a very relevant excerpt:
well, i used to be a firm believer in lpsl as well. after reading that article makes more sense. thanks eric.
 
 
Old 07-09-2009, 12:36 AM   #14
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Here is an article which essentially debunks the "Loud Pipes" myth:

Loud Pipes Save Lives or The Madness Behind the Myth

And a very relevant excerpt:
WOW out of everything I put up on my post, you got LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES!!! Tell me where I wrote that!

Come on what WTF

How about we read what is actually written!!!

RANT OFF!!!!
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Old 07-09-2009, 06:24 AM   #15
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WOW out of everything I put up on my post, you got LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES!!! Tell me where I wrote that!

Come on what WTF

How about we read what is actually written!!!

RANT OFF!!!!
I did read your post and I agree with the vast majority of it.

The portion of which I had an issue with was specifically quoted in my post.
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