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Old 07-07-2010, 03:29 PM   #1
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Cop hits motorcyclist and gets away with it.... - Orange, CA, United States, 92865 - Sportbike Club Blog post - Brought to you by 2 Wheel Tuner magazine
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Old 07-07-2010, 04:37 PM   #2
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No suprise to me that this happens in the United Police States of America.

Hope the rider sues the shit out of them.
 
 
Old 07-07-2010, 04:44 PM   #3
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Even though the rider was going about 10mph, you can see how violently he was thown from the bike. You see his shoes go flying off, another reminder to wear proper foot wear when you go ride.

Just a reminder that if it happened there, it can happen here and maybe to one of us.

As far as the cop, official business my ass. He has to be held accountable.
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Old 07-07-2010, 05:45 PM   #4
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No different than texting while hitting someone. This guy needs to be punished.
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Old 07-07-2010, 05:49 PM   #5
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wow,,, i posted stuff in the wrong thread...
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Old 07-07-2010, 05:51 PM   #6
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How trailer park was that... Her ex husband was in the car while she was going to see her boyfriend, and wanted to be properly groomed....
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Old 07-07-2010, 05:53 PM   #7
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dammmit... smoking crack again
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Old 07-07-2010, 08:13 PM   #8
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Old 07-08-2010, 07:44 PM   #9
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so fucked up! and he didn't get anything for it? and some poor old guy that was just out riding is now in the hospital! fucking cops!
 
 
Old 07-08-2010, 11:51 PM   #10
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Being a motorcyclist and not a police officer I can definitely side with the biker and those of you saying "Wow this is ridiculous" (some in not so nice words :P) but being a level headed individual and actually having been on a ride along with a metro officer here in Vegas I can tell you there is a WHOLE lot going on that an officer needs to take in. As was mentioned in the video it's almost too much to take in and pay attention. Can we blame the officer for it, partially sure he was driving after all, but his job requires him to not only be constantly scanning the area for things of interest, but keeping up with radio traffic, and imputing/receiving information on his computer. All this while driving... it can get quite overwhelming, and has led to plenty a fender bender for metro cops here alone, sadly something that would've made a dent in someone's door or bumper for a bike is much worse (and an older man even more so).

Always keep scanning and looking for possible problems (emergency vehicles included) just cause there's a stop sign there doesn't necessarily mean that car is going to stop, ESPECIALLY cops! I say all that to say it's not so much a FTP issue as it is just something that can happen with all the crap the dump on these guys to monitor and maintain while on the road, but unless you wanna pay state taxes to start getting 2 officers in every car, this is just gonna be how it is.
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:15 AM   #11
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Being a motorcyclist and not a police officer I can definitely side with the biker and those of you saying "Wow this is ridiculous" (some in not so nice words :P) but being a level headed individual and actually having been on a ride along with a metro officer here in Vegas I can tell you there is a WHOLE lot going on that an officer needs to take in. As was mentioned in the video it's almost too much to take in and pay attention. Can we blame the officer for it, partially sure he was driving after all, but his job requires him to not only be constantly scanning the area for things of interest, but keeping up with radio traffic, and imputing/receiving information on his computer. All this while driving... it can get quite overwhelming, and has led to plenty a fender bender for metro cops here alone, sadly something that would've made a dent in someone's door or bumper for a bike is much worse (and an older man even more so).

Always keep scanning and looking for possible problems (emergency vehicles included) just cause there's a stop sign there doesn't necessarily mean that car is going to stop, ESPECIALLY cops! I say all that to say it's not so much a FTP issue as it is just something that can happen with all the crap the dump on these guys to monitor and maintain while on the road, but unless you wanna pay state taxes to start getting 2 officers in every car, this is just gonna be how it is.
So you're saying a cop should get a pass because he/she is so busy? If so, I agree to an extent. If a cop in the performance of his/her normal duties has an accident such as this; based on the information available I do not think the officer should be charged with a crime or be civiliy liable. On the otherhand the dept. and the lawmakers that have the time to think things through before coming up with policies and legal exemptions for LEOs should be hammered with civil and or criminal action.

I do not care how highly trained an officer is, there is tons of evidence that shows multi-tasking while driving is extremely dangerous. Hence the reason they supposedly make these laws. Officers are first and formost, humanbeings with the same weaknesses as the rest of us. Talking on a radio or a cell phone is one thing, but using a computer while driving is insane. There is no way in hell that a rational, intelligent person would think otherwise.

The problem is that dept. heads and lawmakers don't always think of the safety of the officers or the people they are sworn to protect, especially when dollars signs are flashing before their eyes. This type of mentality is what needs to be changed.
 
 
Old 07-09-2010, 08:57 AM   #12
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i am wondering how he thought he was idling when he had just done a u-turn and come back to the stop sign... was he idling for the u-turn??
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Old 07-09-2010, 12:16 PM   #13
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I dis agree. The cop ran a stop sign while in performance of his duties and hit and seriously injured a person.

Just cuz he is on the radio or cad is no reason not to be charged with something. Granted there is a lot going on in a cop car at times but that is no excuse for breaking a traffic law. They get an exemption frOm using the cad unit because they are supoost to be trained when it is safe to use it.

Use it when it is unsafe that s on you
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Old 07-09-2010, 12:53 PM   #14
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10mph my arse....and if he was so busy that he felt the need to "idle" why not just stop for a moment? Negligence should be accountable to all...including LEOs.
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I dis agree. The cop ran a stop sign while in performance of his duties and hit and seriously injured a person.

Just cuz he is on the radio or cad is no reason not to be charged with something. Granted there is a lot going on in a cop car at times but that is no excuse for breaking a traffic law. They get an exemption frOm using the cad unit because they are supoost to be trained when it is safe to use it.

Use it when it is unsafe that s on you
The point I'm making that they are not charging the officer, so I am assuming that means his actions, using the CAD unit while driving are either condoned or required by his superiors and lawmakers. If that's the case then lawmakers and the police chief should be held accountable.
 
 
Old 07-09-2010, 03:41 PM   #16
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It seems that two officers in a vehicle would be the logical solution. One to drive the vehicle, and the second to run the radio, computer, mapping system and communicate on the radio.

Truth is, nothing will change unless people in positions to make changes recognize a problem and develop a solution.
 
 
Old 07-10-2010, 01:01 PM   #17
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Avoidable by the rider YES, should the cop at least be ticked for running a stop sign YES. The same as any other person who failed to stop and killed someone would get.
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Old 07-10-2010, 05:40 PM   #18
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So you're saying a cop should get a pass because he/she is so busy? If so, I agree to an extent. If a cop in the performance of his/her normal duties has an accident such as this; based on the information available I do not think the officer should be charged with a crime or be civiliy liable. On the otherhand the dept. and the lawmakers that have the time to think things through before coming up with policies and legal exemptions for LEOs should be hammered with civil and or criminal action.

I do not care how highly trained an officer is, there is tons of evidence that shows multi-tasking while driving is extremely dangerous. Hence the reason they supposedly make these laws. Officers are first and formost, humanbeings with the same weaknesses as the rest of us. Talking on a radio or a cell phone is one thing, but using a computer while driving is insane. There is no way in hell that a rational, intelligent person would think otherwise.

The problem is that dept. heads and lawmakers don't always think of the safety of the officers or the people they are sworn to protect, especially when dollars signs are flashing before their eyes. This type of mentality is what needs to be changed.

I agree completely... Should the officer be at fault, sure he was driving, should any criminal action come against him, nah... He is required to perform these actions while driving as a part of his job so he does it to the best of his abilities. Some say he should at least get a ticket for running the stop sign, but undoubtedly he was removed from duty pending an investigation for at least a few days which more than covers the cost of a ticket on a cops salary :P so I'd say he had his punishment, not to mention the ass chewing he got from his boss and no doubt the points against his career advancement that the accident would cause... I feel sorry for the poor old man on the bike, enjoying a leisurely ride and BAM you get t-boned, and not just a bumper, a fucking push bar to the leg... ouch. Should the city have to pay his medical bills and damages caused HELLLLLL YES... should the officer.... not in my opinion.
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