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Old 07-26-2010, 08:40 AM   #1
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Hello everyone. looking for a little buzz on an idea I have for the Las Vegas area.
Sometime in OCT. I would like to start a bike rally for clark county area for sport bikes. I'm estimating a turnout of about 600 bikes and people. will have Bands, Retail stores from the area, bike contests, girl contests, bikini bike wash, beer garden, food, and maybe a stunt show for street, and dirt.
I have done about 4 of these thruout the U.S. and they have been great.
Cost is about 25.00 to get in and shirts will be for sale at trhe event. I will hold this event for 1 or 2 days depending on the ideas I get from you.
I always have a bike show contest for customs, paint, and yes will even have a Miss ROCK IT Winner. As you may know these is not cheap so alot of the cost is mine which I an aware of but I dont know how many sportbikes are in the area. I drive a 2006 R-1 and have seen alot of sport riders in the area. Im not a fan of harleys so there not invited. This is a sportbike event and 18 or older might apply. but I dont want to leave out the families we all have so if you think it should be for kids as well please tell me. It would only change the beer part for permit apps.
So I'm looking for some insight on locations, population, intrests, retail involment, sponsers, Come one come all.

Since my first bike rally I have always heard there is never enough for the sportbike community, Vegas seems to be the greatest place to start a multi-year event which could grow to a tri-state showing.

Once again - I'm not talking about your local meets at hooters. this will be a large event with up to 600-1000 people (first year) maybe more but I'll need your help on info.

Thanks for reading. very eager to hear what everyone thinks.
smoothy

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Old 07-26-2010, 09:35 AM   #2
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We use to have one of these on a weekly basis, until the cops showed up and impounded half the bikes for riders having no M endorsement or insurance. The tow truck company made out like bandits.
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Old 07-26-2010, 10:26 AM   #3
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I cant say that wont happen - thats on each person to pay the piper -- I just paid 289.00 to get plates which is bullshit!!!!! for a bike. Its like drinking and driving I dont do it -- But if you do and you get caught, its on you. get what you need and go ride.
PS. I dont want to ride around someone that doesnt have a class M anyway
 
 
Old 07-26-2010, 11:23 AM   #4
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PS. I dont want to ride around someone that doesnt have a class M anyway
Ain't that the truth. 65% of Las Vegas are riding without a license or insurance. I just had a 70 year old rider finally get his M endorsement last week. After 50 years of riding! And what's even more amazing, he honestly said he learned some stuff that he never realized.

When you get large gatherings like that, the chances are pretty good that this will happen. That's why I tend to steer away from really large gatherings. Tends to attract the real goofballs. Unless you know them personally, there is no way to verify that they are riding legal. For the folks that I got to know on SCS over time, there fine. There appears to be more emphasis on safety and riding legal than some other local forums, but that's just my opinion and observation.

There has been some collisions involving riders that I know of from reading other forums in which one of the rider had no insurance, and the other rider got real pissed.
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Old 07-26-2010, 11:37 AM   #5
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Hello everyone. looking for a little buzz on an idea I have for the Las Vegas area.
Sometime in OCT. I would like to start a bike rally for clark county area for sport bikes. I'm estimating a turnout of about 600 bikes and people. will have Bands, Retail stores from the area, bike contests, girl contests, bikini bike wash, beer garden, food, and maybe a stunt show for street, and dirt.
I have done about 4 of these thruout the U.S. and they have been great.
Cost is about 25.00 to get in and shirts will be for sale at trhe event. I will hold this event for 1 or 2 days depending on the ideas I get from you.
I always have a bike show contest for customs, paint, and yes will even have a Miss ROCK IT Winner. As you may know these is not cheap so alot of the cost is mine which I an aware of but I dont know how many sportbikes are in the area. I drive a 2006 R-1 and have seen alot of sport riders in the area. Im not a fan of harleys so there not invited. This is a sportbike event and 18 or older might apply. but I dont want to leave out the families we all have so if you think it should be for kids as well please tell me. It would only change the beer part for permit apps.
So I'm looking for some insight on locations, population, intrests, retail involment, sponsers, Come one come all.

Since my first bike rally I have always heard there is never enough for the sportbike community, Vegas seems to be the greatest place to start a multi-year event which could grow to a tri-state showing.

Once again - I'm not talking about your local meets at hooters. this will be a large event with up to 600-1000 people (first year) maybe more but I'll need your help on info.

Thanks for reading. very eager to hear what everyone thinks.
smoothy
This seems like a nice idea to gear this proposed event to sportbikes, but to straight-up make the statement that Harleys are not invited is a really bad idea. You might want to change this.

Do you have a website? I'd love to see some pictures of your past events. Getting 600-1000 people to hit up a sportbike-oriented event here in Vegas will take lots of work!
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Old 07-26-2010, 01:10 PM   #6
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This seems like a nice idea to gear this proposed event to sportbikes, but to straight-up make the statement that Harleys are not invited is a really bad idea. You might want to change this.
I agree. I think this guy failed Marketing 101.

Harleys are not cheap bikes by any means, not to mention the top selling bike in the USA. Go to bike shows and look around, Harley riders love to go to these things and spend their money. And most people riding them are a bit older and generaly have deeper pockets. And you may be suprised to find out that many, many Harley riders also own a sportbike, or dirtbike, naked biked or supermoto and you're turning these guys away. Imagine if the Laughlin River Run, Sturgis, Daytona Bike week, or Las Vegas Bikefest said "Harley only, all other keep moving down the road" - they welcome anyone who rides or likes any type of motorcycle.

The most basic rule of marketing is to never tell money to go somewhere else.
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Old 07-26-2010, 01:16 PM   #7
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straight-up make the statement that Harleys are not invited is a really bad idea. You might want to change this.

I would concur also what about metric cruisers? 2 wheels is 2 wheels, and if you gear the event more TOWARDS the Sportbikes, you will have a bigger sportbike turn out. IF you are doing this to make it big and make money, Harley money spends the same as sportbike money. I personally think the Beer Garden thing is a bad idea, you rode your bike down here and I am gonna serve you alcohol knowing you are gonna get on your bike and head out. At the concerts, we are required to stop serving when the last act goes on or main event starts. But the beer thing is just my .02
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Old 07-26-2010, 01:37 PM   #8
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straight-up make the statement that Harleys are not invited is a really bad idea. You might want to change this.

I would concur also what about metric cruisers? 2 wheels is 2 wheels, and if you gear the event more TOWARDS the Sportbikes, you will have a bigger sportbike turn out. IF you are doing this to make it big and make money, Harley money spends the same as sportbike money. I personally think the Beer Garden thing is a bad idea, you rode your bike down here and I am gonna serve you alcohol knowing you are gonna get on your bike and head out. At the concerts, we are required to stop serving when the last act goes on or main event starts. But the beer thing is just my .02

Serving beer was for the Harley Riders....

And don't forget the Scooter riders too, they are also on two wheels.
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:21 PM   #9
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:55 PM   #10
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Hell yea... Sounds like a trip thru the loop is in order..

As for a sportbike event I would go for sure
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Old 07-26-2010, 09:02 PM   #11
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sounds like you need to do more local research. Its a good idea but some local M.C. clubs may not like you treading on their dates. Just something you may want to check into. They also have some clubs working with the National Round Up. Just my 2 cents
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Old 07-26-2010, 09:02 PM   #12
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Hello everyone. looking for a little buzz on an idea I have for the Las Vegas area.
Sometime in OCT. I would like to start a bike rally for clark county area for sport bikes. I'm estimating a turnout of about 600 bikes and people. will have Bands, Retail stores from the area, bike contests, girl contests, bikini bike wash, beer garden, food, and maybe a stunt show for street, and dirt.
I have done about 4 of these thruout the U.S. and they have been great.
Cost is about 25.00 to get in and shirts will be for sale at trhe event. I will hold this event for 1 or 2 days depending on the ideas I get from you.
I always have a bike show contest for customs, paint, and yes will even have a Miss ROCK IT Winner. As you may know these is not cheap so alot of the cost is mine which I an aware of but I dont know how many sportbikes are in the area. I drive a 2006 R-1 and have seen alot of sport riders in the area. Im not a fan of harleys so there not invited. This is a sportbike event and 18 or older might apply. but I dont want to leave out the families we all have so if you think it should be for kids as well please tell me. It would only change the beer part for permit apps.
So I'm looking for some insight on locations, population, intrests, retail involment, sponsers, Come one come all.

Since my first bike rally I have always heard there is never enough for the sportbike community, Vegas seems to be the greatest place to start a multi-year event which could grow to a tri-state showing.

Once again - I'm not talking about your local meets at hooters. this will be a large event with up to 600-1000 people (first year) maybe more but I'll need your help on info.

Thanks for reading. very eager to hear what everyone thinks.
smoothy
No offense newbie but I am gonna call Bullshit on just about all of your claims. I say you haven't done any events much less events as big as you say and if you had then you would have not made so many marketing errors or brag about what you have done without a single example. Name the event and it better have your name all over it.

If you had half a plan you would know that large events like this take lots of sponsors and lots of supporters and tons of marketing and you would not approach a handful of sportbikers on a forum asking them what they think.

Post up or shut up is what I say.

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Old 07-27-2010, 07:41 AM   #13
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You mean there are people still without an M endorsement? lol
 
 
Old 07-27-2010, 09:31 AM   #14
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Thank you all for your imputs on what you think about a bike rally.
Stay Puff, Lost sheep, Mr. Pheer. Great points, dates,beer,mopeds,v-twins,cruzers, are all things can can be hammered out later in planning. I think were all americans with the freedoms to drink responsibly, But I thank you for giving me more ideas.
green dragon - sorry you cant find the peace of waking up mondays and feeling like its another great day to ride like any other day.
If this event does kick off make sure you ask for Smoothy before you walk in.
After serving 15 years in three different branches of the military and two wars theres only one thing I regret and thats protecting the freedoms of people like you. Your an asshole and sorry your friends haven't told you. I asked for input on what you thought of a sportbike rally and you felt the need to personally attack me as a person. I dont need to send a resume' for your stringent approval.
Hope I didnt hurt your feelings. please feel free to visit the Marine Corps league on Arville thursday night. I give you a forearm to cry on you little cunt.
 
 
Old 07-27-2010, 10:07 AM   #15
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I'm going out on a limb here, but please don't tell me DJ Luxor and smoothy1969 equal the same person...
 
 
Old 07-27-2010, 10:19 AM   #16
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We use to have one of these on a weekly basis, until the cops showed up and impounded half the bikes for riders having no M endorsement or insurance. The tow truck company made out like bandits.
Ouch, leave it too the man
 
 
Old 07-27-2010, 10:38 AM   #17
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First impressions = everything.

My opinion, you blew it miserably.

In the future you might want to consider first introducing yourself by coming out to some of the get togethers/rides/events.

As for the complaining about NDMV prices: nobody wants to hear it. We all have to pay the fees. Not one of us here is exempt. Suggestion: if you don't like it, move back to where you came from. As third generation Vegan I can say that.

So you think your military service is some sort of trump card? Get over yourself. There's quite a few of us on the board who can post up our 214's.

To summerize everything for you - relax. This board is comprised of a great group of people. The clubs' mission is to promote safe riding and to educate riders and the general public that motorcycles are out there. Come out to one of our get togethers and meet us. Who knows, this club might not be right for you or you might love it.
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:50 AM   #18
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Wow, we need some moderators.

This is a forum and a club. You can just choose to be a forum member, and not join the club. I'm just a forum member, not sure how many active members there are? Anyone know, I'm curious.

There shouldn't be any personal attacks.

I can see both sides.
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Old 07-27-2010, 01:06 PM   #19
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Wow, we need some moderators.

This is a forum and a club. You can just choose to be a forum member, and not join the club. I'm just a forum member, not sure how many active members there are? Anyone know, I'm curious.

There shouldn't be any personal attacks.

I can see both sides.
Well the really good thing is that this is actually a "public" forum. Free speech and personal attacks for all! If SCS does not like it maybe they will delete the posts, maybe they wont. 702 forum allegedly deletes post and nobody here likes that so my guess is that this topic will not be moderated which is a great thing. Thank god there are people fighting for our freedom to question Smoothy's legitimacy. Now where is my forum troll picture...



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Old 07-27-2010, 01:19 PM   #20
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Wow, we need some moderators.

This is a forum and a club. You can just choose to be a forum member, and not join the club. I'm just a forum member, not sure how many active members there are? Anyone know, I'm curious.

There shouldn't be any personal attacks.

I can see both sides.
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:45 PM   #21
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I've got an eye on this thread... but for the purpose of letting Smoothy confirm his cause. As I see it, this thread can go two ways:
  1. Smoothy can show some evidence of his past events... e.g. PICTURES, a flyer, MySpace/Facebook/website link. If you don't have any of these... at least let us know where and when these past events occurred.
  2. Smoothy does not show any evidence of his past, successful events. In that case, a 1000F-rated flamesuit may be needed.
This thread will stay open unless some significant infractions occur. So... to all involved, please refrain from any unnecessary personal bashing.
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:00 PM   #22
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Eric said it best. We usually dont moderate much of the heated topics unless it is club related so that it can be dealt with in a club manner or if said problem escalates to one.

As long as people keep it semi-conversational/debate we usually do not get TOO involved. Once the personal attacks come into play or requests from members to shut said topic are when one of us will step in...


On to the topic.. I would really love to see this happen. But be opened to all riders alike..

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Old 07-27-2010, 03:08 PM   #23
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I have done about 4 of these thruout the U.S. and they have been great.
Cost is about 25.00 to get in and shirts will be for sale at trhe event.
I guess we are all curious?

I'm cheap, I would never pay $25.00.

We have something like you described, it's called the Laughlin River Run, but it's in April. Even though it's primarily geared towards Harleys, all riders are welcome.
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Old 07-27-2010, 04:21 PM   #24
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Like I said just looking for some idea of how many riders you have in the area to see if this size of an event can take place. I'm not asking for money, sponsorship, or as much as you dont want to hear it -- your approval. I thought I asked professionally for your option. and I catch questions about where and when events have taken place that I have created. But for a short exp. check THA RYDAHZ (you tube)out of Kauai. Kauai harley Davidson Toys for tots runs. Steak and Shake rally in Concord N.C. these are not all big rallies. But they bring bikers together for fun and freedom. If I offended anyone here like dragon well I'm sorry. Just trying to get an idea of whats here and whats not.
And again, Thank you for your replies.
 
 
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Like I said just looking for some idea of how many riders you have in the area to see if this size of an event can take place. I'm not asking for money, sponsorship, or as much as you dont want to hear it -- your approval. I thought I asked professionally for your option. and I catch questions about where and when events have taken place that I have created. But for a short exp. check THA RYDAHZ (you tube)out of Kauai. Kauai harley Davidson Toys for tots runs. Steak and Shake rally in Concord N.C. these are not all big rallies. But they bring bikers together for fun and freedom. If I offended anyone here like dragon well I'm sorry. Just trying to get an idea of whats here and whats not.
And again, Thank you for your replies.

Two Wheels out of Kauai??? Never heard of the place. (see pic...)
Now you have me thinking about the burger place next door upstairs from the "dealership."

I'll take a Steakburger Platter and a chocolate shake to go please...
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:46 PM   #26
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Like I said just looking for some idea of how many riders you have in the area to see if this size of an event can take place. I'm not asking for money, sponsorship, or as much as you dont want to hear it -- your approval. I thought I asked professionally for your option. and I catch questions about where and when events have taken place that I have created. But for a short exp. check THA RYDAHZ (you tube)out of Kauai. Kauai harley Davidson Toys for tots runs. Steak and Shake rally in Concord N.C. these are not all big rallies. But they bring bikers together for fun and freedom. If I offended anyone here like dragon well I'm sorry. Just trying to get an idea of whats here and whats not. And again, Thank you for your replies.
My feelings might get hurt, if I had any. Looking at your examples I still don't see any biker rally's. There are some rides, but not with your name on them. But like others have invited, come on out to an event to meet and greet and share your ideas and you might get better feedback than a blunt generalized post.

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Old 07-29-2010, 08:28 AM   #27
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Hey what do you know....Smoothy & Green Dragon both served in the Marines! You two now have something in common.

I personally never served, but do appreciate your service and dedication. The sacrifices you have made in which I really will never know how tough it was. I actually have more respect to the men & women who have served or currently serve than any pro athlete or movie star.
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:34 AM   #28
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Two Wheels out of Kauai??? Never heard of the place. (see pic...)
Now you have me thinking about the burger place next door upstairs from the "dealership."

I'll take a Steakburger Platter and a chocolate shake to go please...
two wheel is closed now - Tim baught it and is now Garden Island Motorsports
Semper Fi Dragon -- I figured you were Corps since we clashed so fast.lol
Ill come out one night and meet everyone. I realized using the sin city name everyone thought I was doing this for the club and thats not what I intended to happen See ya all soon
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Old 07-29-2010, 05:31 PM   #30
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Old 07-29-2010, 05:50 PM   #31
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My feelings might get hurt, if I had any. Looking at your examples I still don't see any biker rally's. There are some rides, but not with your name on them. But like others have invited, come on out to an event to meet and greet and share your ideas and you might get better feedback than a blunt generalized post.

And my DD214 is on record in San Diego County. Last duty station was Camp Pendleton. Not only did I fight for others freedoms but also enjoy those same freedoms every day. I used to tell my friends "you will never truly appreciate the United States until you leave it for 12 months."

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Marine absorbs IED blast, walks away
6/23/2010 By Sgt. Mark Fayloga, Regimental Combat Team 7


SOUTHERN SHORSURAK, HELMAND PROVINCE, Islamic Republic of Afghanistan — Cpl. Matt Garst should be dead.

Few people survive stepping on an improvised explosive device. Even fewer walk away the same day after directly absorbing the force of the blast, but Garst did just that.

A squad leader with 3rd Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, Garst was leading his squad on a patrol in Southern Shorsurak, Afghanistan, June 23 to establish a vehicle checkpoint in support of Operation New Dawn.

The men were four miles from Company L's newly established observation post when they approached an abandoned compound close to where they needed to set up their checkpoint. It would serve well as an operating base — a place for the squad to set up communications and rotate Marines in and out of. But first, it had to be secured.

As they swept the area with a metal detector, the IED registered no warning on the device. The bomb was buried too deep and its metallic signature too weak. Two men walked over it without it detonating.

At six feet, two inches tall and 260 pounds with all his gear on, Garst is easily the largest man in his squad by 30 or 40 pounds — just enough extra weight to trigger the IED buried deep in hard-packed soil.

Lance Cpl. Edgar Jones, a combat engineer with the squad, found a pressure plate inside the compound and hollered to Garst, asking what he should do with it. Garst turned around to answer the Marine and stepped on the bomb.

“I can just barely remember the boom,” Garst said. “I remember the start of a loud noise and then I blacked out.”

Since Garst's improbable run-in with the IED, his tale has spread through the rest of the battalion, and as often happens in combat units, the story mutates, the tale becoming more and more extraordinary about what happened next: He held onto his rifle the whole time … He actually landed on his feet … He remained unmoved, absorbing the impact like he was muffling a fart in a crowded elevator …

What really happened even eludes Garst. All went black after the earth uppercut him. When he came to, he was standing on his feet holding his weapon, turning to see the remnants of the blast and wondering why his squad had a look on their faces as if they’d seen a ghost.

Marines in Company L think Garst is the luckiest guy in the battalion, and while that may seem a fair assessment, it was the enemy’s shoddy work that left Garst standing. The three-liters of homemade explosive only partially detonated.

Marines who witnessed the event from inside the compound caught glimpses of Garst’s feet flailing through the air just above the other side of the building’s eight-foot walls. The explosion knocked him at least fifteen feet away where he landed on his limp head and shoulders before immediately standing back up.

Not quite sure of what had just happened, Garst turned back toward the blast, now nothing but a column of dirt and smoke rising toward the sun.

“My first thought was, ‘Oh s---, I just hit an IED,’” he said. “Then I thought, ‘Well I’m standing. That’s good.’”

Garst’s squad stared at him in disbelief. The square-jawed Marine has a tendency to be short-tempered, and the realization that the blast was meant to kill him spiked his adrenaline and anger.

“It pissed me off,” he said.

He directed his men to establish a security perimeter while letting them know in his own way that he was OK.

“What the f--- are you looking at?” he said. “Get on the cordon!”

Garst quickly radioed back to base, calling an explosive ordnance disposal team and quick reaction force.

“I called them and said, ‘hey, I just got blown up. Get ready,’” he said. “The guy thought I was joking at first. ‘You got blown up? You’re not calling me. Get out of here.’”

Once EOD cleared the area, Garst led his squad the four miles back to their observation post — just hours after being ragdolled by an IED blast.

“I wasn’t going to let anybody else take my squad back after they’d been there for me,” he said. “That’s my job.”

The next day Garst awoke with a pounding headache and was as sore as he’d ever been in his life.

“Just getting up from trying to sleep was painful,” he said.

But he saw no reason being sore should slow him down. He popped some ibuprofen and after a day of rest, Garst was back out on patrol, showing his Marines and the enemy that just like his resolve — Cpl Matt Garst is unbreakable.

My money is he's from PI and not a Hollywood Marine.

Marine absorbs IED blast, walks away
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