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Old April 17th @ 07:38 am   #2
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From: Sin City, Las Vegas

Motorcycle: Currently shopping for bike. Had 07 R6, 78 DS 125, 02 600r, 05 R6
What a crazy ass story. Then again we are in Vegas
 
 
Old April 17th @ 12:30 pm   #3
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From: Las Vegas/Summerlin

Motorcycle: 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa LE/2007 Suzuki GSXR600/2000 Honda CBR600F4
Some bad decisions all-around on this one... here's a decent thread involving some of the parties involved.

"Tatoo from zoo" guys jump family in garage (las Vegas)
 
 
Old April 17th @ 07:53 pm   #4
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From: Sin City, Las Vegas

Motorcycle: Currently shopping for bike. Had 07 R6, 78 DS 125, 02 600r, 05 R6
Sometimes you have to step back and wonder just WTF is wrong with the world?
 
 
Old April 20th @ 08:23 am   #5
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From: I'm from Vault 101

Motorcycle: '06 600RR TOTALLED '08 1000RR Black/Yellow
Fucking bogus, its all fun and games, being drunk, wilding out and talking shit until someone crosses the line.

Can't say I blame Joejujitsu for defending his family's honor. An insult like "I want to fuck your daughters" can't go unchecked. But not at the expense of your family's safety. Im not judging because I know shit happens in the heat of the moment, but his only mistake was not sizing up the situation fast enough. Never willingly enter a fight you can't win, especially when it puts your family in harms way. It would have been better to swallow his pride and get even with those fucks another day. Vegas is a small valley, they wouldn't have been hard to find. The Tattoo by Zoo car would have been a good start.

I never forget a face, its a gift and a curse. That guy Zoo sent me a friends request on myspace about 2yrs ago. I don't know him, but Zoo should get some new friends. If not, he's no better than the rest of those wife beating thugs.
 
 
Old April 20th @ 09:55 am   #6
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From: Hendo

Motorcycle: GSX-R 1000 & RC51
I mean no disrespect to anyone, but Joe was as wrong as two boys fucking IMO. The comment by the Zoo Crew was wrong, no doubt about it, but they were just words. He had his family with him and should have thought better of the situation. Taking the fight to the crew was mistake #1. While fighting 3 dudes, why would you try to take one down with a Jiu Jitsu ground move that leaves you completely vulnerable to the other two? Mistake #2. Never, never, NEVER put the family in harms way while trying to defend their honor.
 
 
Old April 20th @ 10:21 am   #7
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From: Las Vegas/Summerlin

Motorcycle: 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa LE/2007 Suzuki GSXR600/2000 Honda CBR600F4
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I mean no disrespect to anyone, but Joe was as wrong as two boys fucking IMO. The comment by the Zoo Crew was wrong, no doubt about it, but they were just words. He had his family with him and should have thought better of the situation. Taking the fight to the crew was mistake #1. While fighting 3 dudes, why would you try to take one down with a Jiu Jitsu ground move that leaves you completely vulnerable to the other two? Mistake #2. Never, never, NEVER put the family in harms way while trying to defend their honor.
+1

Some people need to embrace the side of martial arts that teaches self-discipline. I will defend my family to the death, but this situation was totally avoidable. Even if you justifiably whoop someone's ass nowadays, you can still land yourself in some hot water from a civil/criminal standpoint. So it is best to throw hands when left with no other options.
 
 
Old April 20th @ 05:08 pm   #8
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From: Las Vegas, NV

Motorcycle: GSXR-750
If you plan on punching someone, make sure you have a good lawyer.

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Old April 20th @ 08:43 pm   #9
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From: The Devil's Playground

Motorcycle: Shift Red 2005 Yamaha YZF-R1
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+1

Some people need to embrace the side of martial arts that teaches self-discipline.
+1,000 to this. Most people let words get to them WAY too easily. Yes, it sucks to have someone make comments to you and/or about your family and yes it's wrong for them to do so. However...there is a point when you should keep your common sense AND your self-discipline (whether martial arts trained or not) and let it go. It's not worth getting in over your head just because you got upset.

How exactly are you going to defend your family when you're in city jail or even the state prision after you had injured or even killed someone because you got into a fight with them because they said something about your mom/wife/kids? You're not...you are now leaving your family "high and dry" all because you let your EGO take over and you're locked up.

Sometimes you have to learn to be the better person and thus protect your family even more so, by letting things go and walk away WITH your family. Of course, if push comes to shove (literally), they you sometimes have to do what you have to do to defend yourself and your family. However, always try and walk away...99.5% it's your best option.

I think more people need to learn self discipline and keep their head in these and other situations rather than acting like a bad azz and trying to take on a battle that they may or may not win. And even if you do physically win the battle, that doesn't mean you actually win in the end.
 
 
Old April 21st @ 08:18 am   #10
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From: Hendo

Motorcycle: GSX-R 1000 & RC51
This is slightly off topic, but I'll throw it out there anyway. This is what I always remind myself of when I find I'm getting angry with some ass hat in the streets over something stupid. I caught some prison program on National Geographic about a dude that was only 17 years old and was locked up for 7 years. He was locked up because of a simple traffic altercation. He was driving along and inadvertently cut some dude off. The dude followed him to the next traffic light and got out of his car to confront the 17 year old. Words were exchanged then the guy punched the 17 year old, jumped back in his car, and took off. The 17 year old got mad (who wouldn't) and decided to chase the other guy. During the course of the car chase, the puncher lost control of his car and his female passenger died in the car crash. Because of that, the 17 year old was determined to be at fault (because he was giving chase rather than getting a description of the car and driver and calling the cops. If he hadn't been chasing them, they wouldn't have crashed is the rationale used) and was sentenced to 7 years in the state penn for reacting the exact same way we all probably would have reacted if we were punched at a traffic light. So each time I'm faced with some bullshit, I think about that 17 year old kid, and ask myself, "is it reallyworth it?"

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