Whats everyone's average speed in the freeway? Im definately not a speedster, but when I feel its safe, I like hurry it up a bit, but always paranoid about NHP and getting stupid tickets. What everyone's thoughts on a safe speed over (pending road conditions of course), but still under the radar????

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No more than 5 over the posted limit.
Or, slightly faster than flow of traffic (5MPH faster or so).

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+15 on highways, +10 on city streets

I always try to keep moving through traffic. The moment you start to keep pace in traffic you become invisible. I wish I had that nickel for every time someone I am riding next to has come over into my lane, like I was never there. So I just keep moving. And at +15 you will not be caught from behind by LEO, so just keep looking out way ahead of you, check all the usual hiding spots of bridges, overpasses, median shrubbery or signs, and watch for people ahead of you suddenly brake checking cuz they might have seen one.

Or get a radar detector, lol.

On Nellis south of Charleston there is a curve where I got lit up by a moto cop on the other side. He clocked me doing 10 over. I told him I was pulling ahead of the traffic for my own safety. He let me off with a warning.

But some other advice I would give is "head on a swivel" and look through the windshield of the car in front of you to see what he might be reacting to next. And when going through intersections I never move ahead of cars in lanes next to me in case they are blocking some a**hole turning/crossing in front of us.

Motor cops who frequent my store say anything from 9 to 15 over is ok, but don't hold me to it! They said it depends on the flow of traffic, or the demeanor of the officer at the time.

in town, I stay with traffic sometimes a bit over. in the middle of nowhere..well my detector is my friend !!

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Actually, on surface streets, I rarely go 5 over, I try to ride right at the speed limit. Yes, vehicles end up passing me. It's just plain stupid to ride fast on surface streets, to many variables.

However.......on the freeways, I have a tendency to go faster, like 15-20 over indicated! I say indicated because most bikes, the speedo is off about 7-8%. Meaning that it reads about 7-8% higher than your actual speed. The speedo is pretty acurate at lower speeds, but once you go faster like past 50 or 60, the speedo becomes very inacurate. This is why so many riders get speedo healers.

As far as Speed Traps, the largest one I know around Vegas that is conducted on a regular basis is at the St. Rose on Ramp NB onto I-15. You would have about a dozen or maybe 20 cops (no Joke) qued on that long stretch of the on ramp and you have two Metro Motorpatrol cops shooting from the overpass towards the traffic cresting over the hill from Sloan. The speed limit goes down from 70 to 55mph. NHP, Metro, Boulder City, Henderson, Mesquite Police, North LVPD are all involved. It's massive to say the least.

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I pretty much do what Green Dragon does...10 - 15 over. I like to keep moving slightly faster than the flow of traffic without doing a lot of lane changes. Changing lanes all over the place makes you look like an asshole and increases your chances of not getting let off the hook by the Po-Po should you get pulled over.

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Actually, it's quite the opposite. You should not try to be so stationary.

Motorcyclists often adjust position within a lane to be seen more easily and to minimize the effects of road debris, passing vehicles, and wind. Understand that motorcyclists adjust lane position for a purpose, not to be reckless or show off or to allow you to share the lane with them.

This also holds true to why we choose our lanes. One lane will always be safer than the other as traffic and road pattern changes as well as surface conditions. Therefore, not only do I find myself constantly changing my position within my lane, but I also change lanes too if needed.

Remember, a motorcyclist is entitled to have full use off his or her lane. It's the law. NRS486.341 I think? Don't get fooled by going from one side to another within the lane is reckless or a failure to maintain a lane, because you haven't crossed into any other lane.

Riding with the same mentality as car drivers... THIS DOES NOT WORK ON A MOTORCYCLE!).

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Understood and agreed. Let me clarify though. I change position within my lane as needed, and I'll also change lanes as needed. What I meant is that I don't blaze through traffic zigzagging my way through the cars and generally being a dickhead. I try to remember that some of those cage drivers will base their opinion of motorcyclists based on their encounters with one so I try to be the good ambassador for the group while still making sure I'm being visible and have escape routes. I even ride in a flourescent green jacket to increase visibility. Not the most fashionable jacket, but I'll take being alive over being stylish any day!

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Paranoid about speeding tickets? Well that takes the fun out of things. I thought tickets were the price you pay for setting your own speed limit. I say ride to the best of your ablities and fast you feel safe. Whether that be with the speed of traffic or a little faster. Just be don't go crazy out there.

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I usually do about 10-15 MPH over the limit in town (on the freeways) as well. Surface streets are a whole 'nother ball game. Being paranoid about speeding tickets is definitely understandable.

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Just my $.02 but getting caught hauling ass can be very expensive. Anything in excess of +20 can be a reckless ticket which is up to the discretion of the LEO. And I'm pretty sure you get the complementary white bracelet on the side of the road and your bike get a special ride to the impound yard. In NV, you can fix most tickets, but not so much in UT or on Federal Land, meaning the park systems. The ticket may be cheap compared to your insurance rates for the next 3 years on your bike AND autos. Time and place for everything.........just my $.02 Barry

Great feedback guys, some really good perspectives. I like the idea of not being stationary as you can become invisible, never thought about that and will definitely become more "visible" during my commutes. Although I really dislike getting tickets, I ask this because I feel safest on the freeways when I'm in front of cars where they can see me and this usually equates to exceeding the speed limit.

If the speed limit was 100 mph, that doesnt mean I .....yeah I probaly would bad example.

Thanks guys and be safe out there
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+1 AWESOME thread!. All posts with a "vein of safety" running through them! I agree, get out front, be seen, have a strategy in your mind for each ride, head on a swivel. I ride the 95 NB from Hendertucky to Boulder Highway 3-4 roundtrips per week. Its not too hairy most days but there have been a few days where I have simply exited the freeway (especially around 5pm southbound approaching Galleria/Sunset) and detoured around the trouble spots. I have also gone past NHP at 10 over and got the " slow it down a bit waive" but no tickets....yet.

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Just thought I'd bump this up to the top with my experience.

I got popped going 22 over in a 40 up in Mt. Charleston today. Wide open straight away with good conditions. Not a good excuse, but a cager stomped on the gas when I went to use the passing lane so I sped up to complete the maneuver. As soon as I got back in the lane a NHP came over the hill, and promptly lit me up.


So after explaining myself to the officer, he jumps on his radio and says 'you can cancel the tow'.

The officer couldn't have been a nicer fellow, and cut me some slack, but boy from the sounds of it I wasn't too far from getting impounded. Is anybody familiar with the fine/punishment structure for NV? Does 20+ get you into wreckless territory?

Does 20+ get you into wreckless territory?[/QUOTE]



yes it does

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+1. I don't pay attention to the actual speed so much as I do my positioning in traffic. Like he said, the second you follow someone else's pace you become invisible. My theory is that motorcycles should either be in front of a cluster or traffic or behind it if at all possible.

Speeding tickets are bad, but getting hit by cars is worse. Luckily I haven't gotten pulled over yet (Rangers don't count!!!!). But when I do (because I'm sure I will eventually) I'll just point out the fact that I was positioning myself. I don't ride super crazy. Granted it's faster than normal, but if I wanted to speed I wouldn't have bought a 250

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but if I wanted to speed I wouldn't have bought a 250 [/QUOTE]

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Just join the ranks of Metro..Free speed pass..lol. 15 over can earn you a wreckless driving ticket FYI. Especially if you have a CDL like I do, speeding and tickets have a very very fine line of seperation. I love to keep it over the speed limit but within the relm of respect for the road/others which usually keeps LEO off my 6!! My .02

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