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Old 06-20-2011, 12:23 PM   #1
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Here's a link from the FZ6-Forum, the thread is lengthy but you can bypass everything until post 71. Get's unbelievable after that. I am a diehard Michelin guy when it comes to my bike, but this is defnately not a set I would recommend to anyone.

Michelin Pilot Road 3 are here!!!!!! - Page 8 - Yamaha FZ6 Forums - International FZ6 Motorcycle Community Forum
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:38 PM   #2
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It really looks to me that he didn't have proper inflation. If his pressures were low, the tire did one hell of a job staying together. If they were spot on like he said they were, then Michellin may have to recall a batch. I wouldn't write them off just yet. Michellin has a great reputation and if they do find something wrong, believe me they will fix it.

If you look at the picture, you see the tire wear and chunking on the outer edges and none down the center. This is indicative of low tire pressure. I'm surprised he was able to keep it upright. If the tire pressure was correct, the outer edges probably shouldn't have even contacted the road if he was upright in a straight line on the freeway. Funny though how the outer edges show wear and the center is still a darker shade. I call owner/operator error on this one.
 
 
Old 06-20-2011, 01:06 PM   #3
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I see the problem... he is riding an FZ6, but has a mohawk on his helmet... he is obviously stunting the shit outta that bike and shredding tires!!!

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Old 06-20-2011, 05:08 PM   #4
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He got 10k miles out of a rear tire! Wow! The shredding issue is a bit scarey. Could likely be a defective tire. Any other issues like this that anyone has heard of.
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:13 PM   #5
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:46 PM   #6
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Haha might be looking Into some tires haha
 
 
Old 06-21-2011, 07:07 PM   #7
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Wow!! I was just at cycle gear looking at tires and was shown a P3.
They also had a stack of tires @ 50% off mostly bridgestones and pirellis tho

3rd pic looked like bad blistering
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:26 PM   #8
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Apperently, the thread or link that I have posted has gone viral. Just about every motorcycle forum has a link. Like everyone has said, hold off on buying these tires until Michelin has proven that they are safe.

Two tire failures, two separate times. Being that it was the front and rear, they could not have been from the same batch.
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Old 07-01-2011, 07:34 AM   #9
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Apperently, the thread or link that I have posted has gone viral. Just about every motorcycle forum has a link. Like everyone has said, hold off on buying these tires until Michelin has proven that they are safe.

Two tire failures, two separate times. Being that it was the front and rear, they could not have been from the same batch.
What does this thread's popularity have to do with ONE rider's reported issues? I'd still buy a set of PR3's in a heartbeat. If there were multiple reported (and verified) failures, then I might think twice.
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Old 07-01-2011, 08:31 AM   #10
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What does this thread's popularity have to do with ONE rider's reported issues? I'd still buy a set of PR3's in a heartbeat. If there were multiple reported (and verified) failures, then I might think twice.
+1. There will always be isolated incidents and those people that don't maintain their shit the way they are supposed to then go on a rant and blame someone else. This in no way changes my opinion on Michelin tires. They are high quality and well engineered. I wouls buy a set in a heartbeat as well. Well said Eric.
 
 
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If there is an issue, I am sure that They are aware of it and taking proper steps. They don't want to see issues like this with their tires.
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Old 07-01-2011, 10:32 AM   #12
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+1. There will always be isolated incidents and those people that don't maintain their shit the way they are supposed to then go on a rant and blame someone else. This in no way changes my opinion on Michelin tires. They are high quality and well engineered. I wouls buy a set in a heartbeat as well. Well said Eric.
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Old 07-01-2011, 12:36 PM   #13
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We all can agree that they are relatively new tires that just recently became available, and most people haven't logged 10,000 miles which was the mileage when the failure occured.

Just might be that there was a bad batch, it was cured incorrectly, who knows.

But I think the surprising and most upsetting thing is that Michelin has not responded beside the generic response that is sent out to every dissatisfied customer.

Imagine if you were the first person who experienced a tire blowout with the Firestones on the Ford Explorer causing all those crashes. I know a lot of you are too young to remember the big Firestone Tire dilemma. I'm sure you would experience the exact same response from everyone, probably not the tires. Operator error, just an isolated incident.

Personally, I would wait until this gets resolved. If someone here posted and documented the exact same scenario, I would take it just as serious as long as they can prove it. Being that this rider has everything documented, and that it was even purchased and installed by a dealership, helps his case, as your bikes mileage is usually recorded. He aslo has an official police report. Someone mentioned that the woman in the car, his girlfriend, purposely backed up into the bike and that this was all staged. There always be doubters, which is good too. But like all forums, you really have to evaluate the crediblity of the poster. Even here.
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Old 07-01-2011, 02:41 PM   #14
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We all can agree that they are relatively new tires that just recently became available, and most people haven't logged 10,000 miles which was the mileage when the failure occured.

Just might be that there was a bad batch, it was cured incorrectly, who knows.

But I think the surprising and most upsetting thing is that Michelin has not responded beside the generic response that is sent out to every dissatisfied customer.

Imagine if you were the first person who experienced a tire blowout with the Firestones on the Ford Explorer causing all those crashes. I know a lot of you are too young to remember the big Firestone Tire dilemma. I'm sure you would experience the exact same response from everyone, probably not the tires. Operator error, just an isolated incident.

Personally, I would wait until this gets resolved. If someone here posted and documented the exact same scenario, I would take it just as serious as long as they can prove it. Being that this rider has everything documented, and that it was even purchased and installed by a dealership, helps his case, as your bikes mileage is usually recorded. He aslo has an official police report. Someone mentioned that the woman in the car, his girlfriend, purposely backed up into the bike and that this was all staged. There always be doubters, which is good too. But like all forums, you really have to evaluate the crediblity of the poster. Even here.
I'm old enough to remember the Explorer/Firestone debacle. I also remember what was determined to be the most significant contributor to the tire separation issues... underinflation. (overloading of the vehicles and plain-ol' driver error were other factors)

Michelin simply can't send out anything beyond a generic response in this case. If they state anything remotely insinuating that they're investigating this as a possible defect (acknowledging possible fault), they would have to not only pull all of their current stock off the shelves, they would be setting themselves up for a class-action ass-raping. Plus... they have no idea of how these tires were cared for prior to the accident.

Bottom line, maybe this ONE rider out of (estimated) thousands who run the relatively new PR3's got a faulty set. I haven't seen one shred of hard proof, though.
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Old 07-01-2011, 05:41 PM   #15
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Michelin simply can't send out anything beyond a generic response in this case. If they state anything remotely insinuating that they're investigating this as a possible defect (acknowledging possible fault), they would have to not only pull all of their current stock off the shelves, they would be setting themselves up for a class-action ass-raping.
And we have a winner.

Seriously though, why admit any fault unless you absolutely have to? Take the well known Busa second gear issues for example. it'll be a lot cheaper in the long run to act like it isn't a problem.
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Old 07-01-2011, 09:37 PM   #16
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Me and my explorer were actually part of the recall. I had close to 50,000 miles on my set of Firestones before they gave me a whole new set including the spare. I actually experienced tread separation with the replacement set, Dunlop radials. I never made a stink about because I figured I got a free set of tires anyways. Even the dunlops had close to 60k when they let go. Firestone took care of their people as will Michellin if this becomes a huge issue but until then I continue to purchase Michellin tires
 
 
Old 07-02-2011, 08:14 AM   #17
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BTW: The Road 3's were meant for extreme wet conditions, probably not a good choice for our neck-of-the-woods!
 
 
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Tire X sucks.
I'll never buy tire X because of Y.
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