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Old 11-06-2007, 12:57 PM   #1
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If you buy ANYTHING at Carter, don't pay cash... credit card only. I went there earlier today and bought a Motion Pro Axle Tool for $30 cash. On the way home, I saw McFadden Dale and went in to see if they had a 17mm hex socket. They did, so I bought it and went back to Carter to return the Axle Tool. The socket is 1/2 the price and stronger (it's 1/2"drive). I go over to the parts counter and the guy says he can't give me a cash refund. I say, "why not?". "Store policy", he says. I explain that I just bought the thing 15 minutes ago and paid cash. It's not like I'm trying to get cash for a credit card transaction. He says, "sorry, I can only give you store credit or a gift card". When I pointed out that there's no sign, he said, "it's on the receipt". Well, you don't get a receipt until after you've handed over the cash.

Ok, I understand that stores can't give cash refunds on credit card transactions because you might cancel the card or deny the charge. I also understand that they can't give a cash refund on large purchases because they might not have enough cash on hand. What I can't understand is why I can't get a cash refund for a $30 item I bought 15 minutes ago with cash. The only reason I can think of is that the store has made a conscious decision to be unfair and unreasonable in their business practices. Seems kinda mean-spirited and greedy to me. I did manage to get them to agree to mail me a check. So, now I have to wait a week for my refund. I won't be spending it at Carter for anything.

Moral of the story, go somewhere other that Carter except as a last resort. Even then, pay with a credit card so you have recourse if Carter tries to screw you.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:58 PM   #2
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man carter is really on a roll lately
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:37 PM   #3
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It's hard to believe it is actually legal to deny someone a cash refund when your paid for the item with cash. Companies are stooping to some new lows in order to squeeze an extra buck or two out of you.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:47 PM   #4
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By the way, it sucks to hear all the complaints about Carter. It's sad we really have no good dealerships here in Vegas!
 
 
Old 11-06-2007, 01:56 PM   #5
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well theres sometimes reason not to give refunds, so they leave it up to the stores discretion, this situation, customer sat should get a refund.... 1 pissed off customer... 1000's are refered else where, 1 happy customer = 5 new customers.. =/...
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:58 PM   #6
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Carters over priced anyways, stay away from dealerships unless u need a specific part new, otherwise go to cycle gear or somewhere else.. =/

(excludes Nevada Suzuki as i go there cosntantly and never had any issues, but they are FAMILY oriented and owned)
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:51 PM   #7
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A business cannot refuse a cash refund if you paid cash. That is against the law. That doesn't mean that they won't tell you they can't give back cash and make it a company policy. Several businesses got in trouble a few years back for the exact same thing.

Store Credit is not a refund! You MUST be refunded using...what is it called...oh yah...currency. If you paid cash, you get cash! If you paid via credit card you are issued a credit (not a store credit). The only variation to that is if the item is sold with a no refund policy in place. In other words "All sales are Final". That must be clearly posted or explained at point of sale.

Carter is full of S*&^ on this one.
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It definitely is. We do this at our store also... but NOT if they purchased the product 15 minutes ago! We always try to swap the product for another product or store credit FIRST. If they INSIST a cash refund, we will usually end up sending them a check.
1st reason- We only have $100 in the drawer. If we give a customer a cash refund, we have to go to the bank and pull that amount out to put back in the drawer. That's why it's better for us to send a check.
2nd reason- Employees make commission so a lot of refunds ends up messing with commission totals and what not... thats why we always offer store credit first or an item of similar value.

I am the first to admit that this policy sucks! But thought I would try to shed some light on the reasons why companies do this...
You better be careful, you are violatinting both state and federal regulations on this one. You can squeeze by if you give them a check, but it must be paid at point of refund.
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Carters over priced anyways, stay away from dealerships unless u need a specific part new, otherwise go to cycle gear or somewhere else.. =/

(excludes Nevada Suzuki as i go there cosntantly and never had any issues, but they are FAMILY oriented and owned)
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:21 AM   #10
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I hate stealerships.... period. They ass fuck you every chance they get.

I was forced to by some tires a while back and I cant tell you how much I hated buying from El Cajon Motoworld stealership. But I had to have them and it sucked.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:48 AM   #11
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I hate to admit it, but think about it this way...... You buy a tool and you live a block away... Use the tool and bring it back for a cash refund..... Basically you just borrowed the merchandise and took it back... That in essence would not be good business.........


The store credit meets all requirements legally... Unless they advertise "Sat gauranteed or your money back" they have many ways of beating the system.





I am not saying what they did was right, I was just looking at it from a diff perspective. As much as peeps around here say that place is bad, I would have never purchased anything from them.....
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:20 PM   #12
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I hate to admit it, but think about it this way...... You buy a tool and you live a block away... Use the tool and bring it back for a cash refund..... Basically you just borrowed the merchandise and took it back... That in essence would not be good business.........


The store credit meets all requirements legally... Unless they advertise "Sat gauranteed or your money back" they have many ways of beating the system.





I am not saying what they did was right, I was just looking at it from a diff perspective. As much as peeps around here say that place is bad, I would have never purchased anything from them.....
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:37 PM   #13
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If law states u gotta give cash for cash, everyone is in violation... =/ and the check at point of refund... that is crap too.. because if u pay with an amount to big for the store to refund back .. they issue a corporate check... so yeah... i'd have to research that one a lil to argue this out.. but hey. i dont have time. haha
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:40 PM   #14
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If law states u gotta give cash for cash, everyone is in violation... =/ and the check at point of refund... that is crap too.. because if u pay with an amount to big for the store to refund back .. they issue a corporate check... so yeah... i'd have to research that one a lil to argue this out.. but hey. i dont have time. haha
Many stores including mine are not corporate. I don't know the exact laws, but like what was metnioned above... a company policy is a company policy. I think the only way it could be argued is obviously a lawsuit... and anyone who starts a lawsuit over a $30 refund is crazy.
 
 
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some people have more time then money...
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:48 PM   #16
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I hate to admit it, but think about it this way...... You buy a tool and you live a block away... Use the tool and bring it back for a cash refund..... Basically you just borrowed the merchandise and took it back... That in essence would not be good business.........
Just for the record, package was unopened.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:44 PM   #17
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Wow, even worse.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:07 PM   #18
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That is a big ol SLAP in da face place.... Damn they got you homie.
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If an item is returned in new/unopened condition and the company agrees to a refund, they have to give that refund using actual currency. If it is a larger amount (in the thousands) they can choose to refund via a corporate/company check. That is still currency. This is typically done to avoid carrying large amounts of cash on property. But, if is done the same day...they still have your cash and can give it back. That is actually a smarter way to do it. Just in case they are trying to launder money.

You cannot spend a store credit (other than at that store). Store credits are not true refunds. Any policy of this kind must be clearly displayed at point of purchase.

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HOW DO YOU KNOW?!?! Really, I wanna know so I can use it against anyone who tries this on me in the future.
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