Which one are you going with

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I've got HD DVD, the choice was easy since the HD add-on was only $180 for my xbox 360 and you get 6 free movies with it

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I am with Will on this one... I have the same setup and for the money it was the best bang for the buck (Included 5 HD DVD's).....

I have found that this whole industry is a piece of shit though, because some of the movies are only avail on one or the other.

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I'm sticking with standard DVD until I can afford a 1080p TV. No point in having either with a 1080i/720p TV. In the time it takes for me to save for a new TV, I'm figuring one of the formats will knock the other out.

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I think you are right, one may fail...

Does SOny own the rights to Blu-Ray?

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Yep Sony is in the mix again

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Blu-Ray came with my PS3. With Blu-Ray and HD movies costing $30 a movie, I'm sticking with standard DVD or simply Pay Per View or Net Flix.

That price will drop... BUt the actual quality makes them worth the extra money if you are one who watchs DVD's more than once.....

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I voted Blu-Ray because my future PS3 will already be Blu-Ray capable. Crutchfield had an info section in it to explain the differences between the two. Blu-Ray has more information saturation on the disc so it's a more detailed and clear form of media and SHOULD be considered the best. The problem is that it's particular to Sony only so the battle continues as to which form of digital media will reign supreme. Just like VHS and Beta...there can be only one!!!

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Since I'm not going to be purchasing either of the HD/Blu-Ray-capable gaming consoles, I'm going to wait until the dust settles and keep purchasing DVDs. My upscaling HDMI DVD player is acceptable for now.

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I'm sticking with Blu-ray. Ya know the competition is scared when they have to pay $150M to Paramount so they won't release any of their shit on Blu-ray. From a visual/consumer standpoint I see copies of all the Blu-ray movies disappear from the shelves here at the BX....same 12 copies of Transformers on HD-DVD are still gathering dust.

I'm placing bets on Blue ray , unless something comes out that plays both.

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I am not down with the HYPE...My regular DVD play just fine, not to mention I have over 350 of them. They Hype up everything making everyone think they need to run out and buy it to be cool, then they overcharge ya for it, forget all that noise. I will think about upgrading to something better when my DVD player fails to play and their not charging an arm, two legs, and my left eye for it. By the way, whats next, you push a button and the actors appear in your living room in person to act out the movie? That would be cool on the Adult channels..

BETAMAX OR VHS ??

I went with the Blu-ray, I got the PS3.

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Sad thing is that betamax was a superior format. It's all about the marketing.

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Laserdisc is the wave of the future

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My dad still has his collections of laserdiscs..and supposedly the hd dvd and blue ray dvds cant compair to the audio output of those things. The video is way better which is a plus. As far as bluray and hd go, They have dual players out there. get one. Then dont have to worry about shit except which lame ass productions company is going to produce what movies in what format.

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http://www.blurayvt.com/mainPortal.php?page=home
This might help, we had to do this for work. Go into the facts, and faq's and it should help. But have to agree, staying w/ regular dvd until one finally beats the other. Or the prices come down.

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Here is the deciding factor........


Harry Potter is on HD and not on BLu-Ray.... So the HD's Have it.... If there was a player that could play both and was priced in the normal people range then I would be all over that... Because in my opinion there is no difference in quality between the 2 of them..... I have a PS3 and would never play a movie throug it because I got it for gaming. The fac that there is an afdd on to the xbox 360 that runs the HD DVD's makes it ok for me......

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Jerry...you nerd

I am not a nerd... Ima Geek, they are hotter.....

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Says you

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Early adopters of any technology always pay more. If you are undecided, LG has a dual format player that has been out for over a year. It will cost you about $800.00 though.

What is the real difference in the formats? Image quality wise...nothing. The studios decide how much compression and how much they want to try and shove on one disc. There is not a standardized compression setting for either format. The same can be said for SD DVD's. I can go into a 10 page rant on different compression settings for bith SD an HD dvds. I won't bore you with that.

Capcity wise, Blue ray has the upper hand with about 25% higher capacity per disc. This doesn't necessarily mean better quality (it can) but you do have more space to play with. The down side is that blue ray discs have a much thinner protective layer. it makes them much more susceptible to damage.

Who will win out? Not even the networks or studios know that. This will drag out far longer than than the VHS Beta thing did. My personal opinion is that dual system players will be the best bet and may become the player of choice.

Both formats offer advantages over the other in one form or another. Only time will tell who will win out, or if we will live in a dual format world. Don't fool yourself though. HD is a when not if proposition. Start saving now!

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Call me biased and I can enter other threads with this opinion....mostly anything out of Korea is garbage. LG, Hyundai, and the Hyngbusa thing they want to promote. Being here this time with a clearer head and more mature sound of economics and products...well the shit coming out of this country in inferior. Mostly everything is a knockoff and it doesn't last. I'm not trying to stir too much shit (but love a good arguement) I'm just saying don't buy a fucking garbage LG dual player. There's others out there for the same price that will last longer and have better support.


As you were....I'm going back to drinking my knockoff Miller Lite

Fuck that guy... LG I hear is supposed to be 1 of the better companys, are you telling me different?

I would bet on the format that has the most porn on it. Porn, as we all know, moves the entertainment industry money wise.

LG is actually a VERY good company. They produce some of the best (top rated) electronics in the world. There HD LCD monitors are one of the best brands and the DVD and HDDVD/Blue Ray player is a solid proven performer.

Of course none of this has anything to do with which format is a better choice.

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In picture quality is 1080p really that much better then 1080i? Reason I ask is I have a 50" plasma 1080i and was going to go out and grab a hd dvd player and was curious if you really need a 1080p for them or if there will still be a noticible differance with a 1080i

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True dat! LG (Lucky Goldstar) makes some good stuff. And I would venture to say that most of the electronics coming out of Korea are of decent quality. LG products are always getting some decent reviews in the A/V publications.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but on a side note LG also makes all the interior componants for Zenith..in other words if your purchasing a Zenith it is actually made by LG.

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Did I hear on the news correctly? That Disney was not releasing anything on Blu Ray, they were going to stick with HD? Maybe thats backwards because I just caught the tail end of the story, but that effects sales and which 1 is going to go away. Thats why I'm sticking with my regular DVD selection unitl further notice from my movie making friends...

Here is an abrevated lesson on A couple of the ATSC Standards.

First I versus P or interlace vesus Progessive. Interlace shows half the image every 60th of a second and the other half 1/60th later. It is done by showing the odd lines first then the even lines. This is done to give smooth motion. So if you here or see the term 60i that is what is refering to.

Progressive displays the entire image all at once. It is done 24, 30 or even 60 times per second. I.E. 24p 30p and 60p. 30p is the most common for TV broadcast and that is what it converts 60i to.

How does it effect quality. The fact is most 1080P displays will make TV BROADCASTS look worse. The increased resolution and the conversion from interlaced to progressive adds noise, or actually just shows you what is already there. The only time 1080P looks better is when you are watching a native 1080P signal from a blur ray or HD DVD. TV broadcasts are compressed so much that they actually look better on a 720 display.

How much is HD for broadcast compresses? From 1500 mega bytes per second to anywhere from 8 to a maximum of 19.2 mbs.

Conclusion, if you watch mostly broadcast Hd stick to a 720 display. If you have lots of HD movies, then a 1080P monitor might make sence

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I was at a 'Tech' store and the salesperson actually said the same thing. I thought that he was kidding, but he wasn't at all.

IMHO, it appears that BluRay may take over. I own neither.

By the way, have any of you seen the DVD Up Converters? You use a HDMI cable and it supposedly makes regular DVDs play like 1080p. I'm sure that it's hype, but I was at a friends and he was playing a regular DVD on an Up Converter DVD player on his LCD TV and it was an incredible picture. I asked him twice, 'Are you sure that this isn't HD?' The Up Converters go for about $80.00. The HDMI cable can cost as much, depending where you go.

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Thanks for the info Pat. Preatty informative.

GoFast. My home Theater is a Pioneer Elite 1080p and upconverts. I get a banging picture alreasdy but I dont know if its from that or the TV itself. I bought my plasma and gear all at the same time. Personally , I think like this lately. If ya like the picture you already got then stick with what you got. If I went out and bought a 1080P Plasma to replace my 1080I and then got a blue ray with my luck they would come out with something faster and cleaner then 1080p and I'd still be bhind lol

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I've got an upconverting DVD player on my 720p LCD and it looks great! You can get an upconverting DVD player for about $60 online. Check this one out at Amazon.com:

Phillips Upconverting DVD Player

Try this site out for you cabling needs. You will get violated if you buy HDMI cables at the local retailers.

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/

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[/QUOTE]GoFast. My home Theater is a Pioneer Elite 1080p and upconverts. I get a banging picture alreasdy but I dont know if its from that or the TV itself. I bought my plasma and gear all at the same time. Personally , I think like this lately. If ya like the picture you already got then stick with what you got. If I went out and bought a 1080P Plasma to replace my 1080I and then got a blue ray with my luck they would come out with something faster and cleaner then 1080p and I'd still be bhind lol[/QUOTE]





I'm always trailing with technology too, it changes so quickly! I think that the 1080p is going to be around for a while. It's pretty advanced as far as picture quality goes, from what I've come to understand. But

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Good info! Thanks!

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Did anyone else here catch the news earlier in the week where they said Blu Ray was taking over and that HD DVD was going the way of the Betamax? It seems we may have a winner

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Yep... I heard Paramount and Universal are both considering jumping ship to Blu-Ray. Ima still wait until the dust settles.

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