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Old May 22nd @ 08:26 pm   #1
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From: East side of town, Lakemead/nellis

Motorcycle: GSXR 600, k3
I need your guys's opinion
Planning to go to Willow Spring for the memorial day.
But !!!!!!!!
I went to RR on sunday, when i was coming back home i saw a little bid of oil on my left fork. Busted fork seal i thought. sure enough I wiped them off and today i went to lake mead to confirm and FUCK
yes, left side is leaking.
How danger is to ride the track like this. does any one have been through out this kink of problem?

 
 
Old May 23rd @ 08:20 am   #2
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From: East side of town, Lakemead/nellis

Motorcycle: GSXR 600, k3
Any track junkies or moto techs?
 
 
Old May 23rd @ 08:36 am   #3
sinfulf4i
 
why not just replace them before the trackday it dont take but a day to have a shop do it if you take them the forks and if you do it your self it only takes a few hrs
 
 
Old May 23rd @ 02:51 pm   #4
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From: East side of town, Lakemead/nellis

Motorcycle: GSXR 600, k3
I dont have the minimum idea how to do it.

I can probably take them off but i think they need to be alligned correctly after you put them back. I rather someone does know what he is doing to do it for me.
I called a shop and they want like $300 not to mention a dealears price.
 
 
Old May 23rd @ 03:03 pm   #5
sinfulf4i
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyrider
I dont have the minimum idea how to do it.

I can probably take them off but i think they need to be alligned correctly after you put them back. I rather someone does know what he is doing to do it for me.
I called a shop and they want like $300 not to mention a dealears price.
300 bucks to do fork seals jeeeeeezous i need to open my own shop 300 bucks it should only take about 4 hrs to remove them and replace seals and put the bike back toghter
 
 
Old May 23rd @ 03:55 pm   #6
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From: Deltona, Fl
I do not believe you would pass tech inspection with blown seals. I did a trackday once with the front end out of wack and it was a complete waste of money. Bike felt so bad I stopped riding after 2 sessions. I would def have it done b4 doing the trackday.
 
 
Old May 23rd @ 04:21 pm   #7
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From: North
dude it is incredibly dangerous to do a track day or any riding at all in that respect with a blown fork seal. it would be like driving a car with only 3 of the 4 wheels attached. if you are in a left turn and you hit a bump or any little imperfection in the pavement it will send you into a nasty tank slap and probably(99.9%) throw you off the bike like a rag doll. get it done immediatly! either at a shop or talk nice to dave and im sure he would do it for you, for alot cheaper.
 
 
Old May 23rd @ 05:38 pm   #8
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From: Tatooine

Motorcycle: a jet
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Originally Posted by x3ll3r8
dude it is incredibly dangerous to do a track day or any riding at all in that respect with a blown fork seal. it would be like driving a car with only 3 of the 4 wheels attached. if you are in a left turn and you hit a bump or any little imperfection in the pavement it will send you into a nasty tank slap and probably(99.9%) throw you off the bike like a rag doll. get it done immediatly! either at a shop or talk nice to dave and im sure he would do it for you, for alot cheaper.
I know it seems like it would work that way, but actually when you tighten that axle bolt its makes both forks work as one. This is how sometimes racers want like an 87.5 pound spring rate but all they have is a 90 and an 85, they put one of each in the forks and when they tighten everything down they get thier effective 87.5 rate. Due to the solid axle the wheel cannot pivot in the forks and effect one side more than the other.

But it is a pretty bad idea to ride with a bad seal, you are reducing the effectiveness of your total front suspension. And as Shwell has already said, if you are leaking anything you wont pass tech inspection.
 
 
Old May 23rd @ 07:49 pm   #9
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From: East side of town, Lakemead/nellis

Motorcycle: GSXR 600, k3
Thanks guys for your inputs,
Im not worry about inspection the fork wont leak until after a good 10-15 minutes of riding.
What im concern is what you guys stated the effectivness of the suspension and probably an accident in any of the left handers.

I think im gona missed this one if i dont get it done.
Thanks guys

Dave let me know if you willing to help on this one. Ill pay for your work of course.
 
 
Old May 23rd @ 10:58 pm   #10
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From: North
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pheer
Quote:
Originally Posted by x3ll3r8
dude it is incredibly dangerous to do a track day or any riding at all in that respect with a blown fork seal. it would be like driving a car with only 3 of the 4 wheels attached. if you are in a left turn and you hit a bump or any little imperfection in the pavement it will send you into a nasty tank slap and probably(99.9%) throw you off the bike like a rag doll. get it done immediatly! either at a shop or talk nice to dave and im sure he would do it for you, for alot cheaper.
I know it seems like it would work that way, but actually when you tighten that axle bolt its makes both forks work as one. This is how sometimes racers want like an 87.5 pound spring rate but all they have is a 90 and an 85, they put one of each in the forks and when they tighten everything down they get thier effective 87.5 rate. Due to the solid axle the wheel cannot pivot in the forks and effect one side more than the other.

But it is a pretty bad idea to ride with a bad seal, you are reducing the effectiveness of your total front suspension. And as Shwell has already said, if you are leaking anything you wont pass tech inspection.

i may be way off base here, but that is the most preposterous thing i have ever heard.

if that is the case, then lets use a rear wheel drive car with a solid rear end. if one shock is blown, and the other is brand new, what happens? distortion. the rear axle will essentially twist. also if that is the case, why not run a mono shock up front? why even have 2.......strength? the problem with having 1 shock good and the other bad will have the same effect as the car. it will twist your bars left to right or right to left. the difference with the racer thing is 3 lbs. the difference with one blown fork seal is almost 0 dampening/rebound compared to 100%
 
 

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