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Old March 11th @ 09:43 pm   #31
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From: lake mead pkwy.& boulder hwy.

Motorcycle: 07 suzuki sv650s
All I can say is WTF

 
 
Old March 12th @ 09:06 am   #32
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From: Las Vegas/Summerlin

Motorcycle: 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa LE/2007 Suzuki GSXR600/2000 Honda CBR600F4
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I thought Howie was booted but if he turned in his patch I stand corrected...

I see Eric's point that he has not made an effort to make amends for his actions.

I'm guessing after we enforce this we are going to see a riff between us and the rest of Amped.

Unfortunate

A consensus no to Howie and ok to Amped? and ban the IP address once more?
It is unfortunate. And I understand the need to be diplomatic when other Clubs are concerned. But Howie made his choice clear on several occasions. If I saw any shred of regret in his actions towards SCS and its Members, I would have a different viewpoint on this issue. Now all of a sudden everything is supposed to be cool and bygones should be bygones? We, as a Club, look foolish when we spend many hours repairing a situation only to welcome the root cause of the situation back into our midst.

I personally feel that Howie's site and event bans should be reinstated. But I also feel that the Officers should make the ultimate decision with the Club and its Members' best interests in mind.

Regarding Amped... I also feel that the Officers should make the final decision. You guys (Officers) have been entrusted to guide this Club in the right direction. I'm sure whatever is decided by the Officers' corps will work out.

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Sounds good to me.
I'd like to know how all this sounds to Pat and Les as well.

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All I can say is WTF
Could you please elaborate? What is your take on all of this as SoA?
 
 
Old March 12th @ 09:33 am   #33
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From: Las Vegas, NV

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of course =]
 
 
Old March 12th @ 09:38 am   #34
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From: lake mead pkwy.& boulder hwy.

Motorcycle: 07 suzuki sv650s
I will let you all know how I feel on this tonight when I get home from work
 
 
Old March 12th @ 08:40 pm   #35
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From: NLV - Lone Mt & Clayton

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Ok, here's my $0.02 (and Les & I will be at the meeting now)

I had understood that Howie was banned for life, but quit before the officers could tell him. True?

I too feel that the current members need to know what happened back then so they can understand where we are coming from. Put it all on the table so there is no grey areas. And for the members that were around then, you should be on board with thoughts, not defending him. Considering the slanderous things he said, and inflamitory threats to some of us members He clearly violated board policies, and was banned for life from the site. No denying that. For what he did to me personally, I will never accept him at a SCS event. But I just have to grin-and-bear it because obviously the officers either don't know what happened, or don't care what he did to the club and it's members.

Regardless, he has been banned for life from this site because of his actions on the site. If we uphold that ruling, and remind him, he will know that he is not welcome around at events, and hopefully stop coming. And if that means losing the few amped members, so be it.

To bring Angel/Robert/Maria into this is like comparing apples to oranges. Those were issues between members. Howie, personally attacked SCS, and that is inexcusable.


Personally I don't know why there has to be any kind of vote. This issue concerns Howie all by himself. If some of the amped peeps want to come to a TWT, fine. But it doesn't mean that Howie is welcome. There are other officers that can come. Concentrate on upholding the ruling of banning him off the site, and he'll realize that he's not wecome at SCS events. Especially if we shun him. And if we lose the participation of all of amped, so what? Not like they have 40 peeps anyway.


Anyway, I'm tired and going to bed.
 
 
Old March 13th @ 08:19 am   #36
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From: Las Vegas/Summerlin

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Ok, here's my $0.02 (and Les & I will be at the meeting now)

I had understood that Howie was banned for life, but quit before the officers could tell him. True?

I too feel that the current members need to know what happened back then so they can understand where we are coming from. Put it all on the table so there is no grey areas. And for the members that were around then, you should be on board with thoughts, not defending him. Considering the slanderous things he said, and inflamitory threats to some of us members He clearly violated board policies, and was banned for life from the site. No denying that. For what he did to me personally, I will never accept him at a SCS event. But I just have to grin-and-bear it because obviously the officers either don't know what happened, or don't care what he did to the club and it's members.

Regardless, he has been banned for life from this site because of his actions on the site. If we uphold that ruling, and remind him, he will know that he is not welcome around at events, and hopefully stop coming. And if that means losing the few amped members, so be it.

To bring Angel/Robert/Maria into this is like comparing apples to oranges. Those were issues between members. Howie, personally attacked SCS, and that is inexcusable.


Personally I don't know why there has to be any kind of vote. This issue concerns Howie all by himself. If some of the amped peeps want to come to a TWT, fine. But it doesn't mean that Howie is welcome. There are other officers that can come. Concentrate on upholding the ruling of banning him off the site, and he'll realize that he's not wecome at SCS events. Especially if we shun him. And if we lose the participation of all of amped, so what? Not like they have 40 peeps anyway.


Anyway, I'm tired and going to bed.
Well stated Pat and I agree with all points 100%.
 
 
Old March 13th @ 09:39 am   #37
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From: A Space between a blink and a tear

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I keep seeing "ban his IP" if it's static, he can always change it. Y'all mods know this, why not just ban the Nickname, and have the registration process be a "verify each user" type deal. So you'll be able to screen any new users.

Oh, I almost forgot:

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Old March 13th @ 10:24 am   #38
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My opinion on the matter is this: If this person has done something that warrants a "life time ban", it should be upheld as such. I don't know Howie and have never met him, but I feel that if this was put in place it should be enforced. My $.02.
 
 

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