I'm sure that everybody has noticed , lately our fellow riders have been dying at a rate of about one per week. Whether their deaths have been caused by inattentive cagers or riding beyond their abilities is immaterial. Experience and responsible riding skills may have prevented some of these tragic accidents. If we want to to expand our club's ideals with actions instead of just posting condolences when we hear about a death, we need to take action and do anything thing we can to help are younger brothers and sisters learn responsible riding habits.

MSF can only do so much and you all know how worthless DMV, L.E., judges and politicians are when they choose to stereo-type motorcycists as reckless and feel that increasing penalties for those of us that are not causing deathes to our fellow citizens or ourselves is a proper course of action and will illeviate the problem.

If we really try to band together with all different types of riders, united under a common goal to save lives, we will make an impact for the betterment of all motorcyclists, but max participation is required.

OOPS!!!! The ride will be at 11:00AM meet up at the overlook at RedRocks.

I'm thinking you should hold that ride somewhere else.

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Agree but it's for sure a good idea....

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I think we should maybe start at RR and then take it to the strip. Let all the news agency's know ahead of time so they can cover it and we can get some face time as a club and really promote it. Call all the radio stations and do an internet mailing of all the bike clubs here in town. Maybe end at a motorcycle dealership near the strip........



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Starting the ride at RedRock, with Media might not be the best idea. I don't think that the publicity of a bunch of bikes out at redrock is going to have a positive impact on what you're trying to accomplish.

Perhaps start the ride at a bike shop and end it at the summit, or some where like that. The RedRock loop already has enough attention right now, and to have the media means that police will be there, and it's a very bad mix.

Just my $0.02 :)

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We don't have to have the media at RR. Have them at show up mid way through the run filming us ride by and then have them film us at the final destination. I agree that RR probably isn't the best place to be but I also understand what he is saying.



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I got 2 fifty here....

Great idea Tom.

How about looking at the RedRock starting point as THE POINT! Meaning, its a ride about safety awareness. Show the public that the recent tragedies there could maybe have been prevented with an empasis on safe riding, wearing protective gear, etc. And to show that NOT ALL BIKE RIDERS are going to end up in that position. We are here to show that RedRock can be enjoyed by Bikes in a Safe manor and there are a boat load of safe riders right there right now to prove the point!



just a view from another perspective.

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I think the idea is awesome, totally down with it and I'll be there. *just not at Redrock* :)

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I think your cause is a good one but you have to have a cause and or a domation if your going to get the media invovled, like the Red Ryders do every Momorial day "The ride over the dam" in memorey of all the fallen vets. without a cause no one will know what were riding for. Besides it will be 1000 degree's on June 24th

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You must be a mind reader because that is the exact reason why I feel the ride should start at Red Rock and go through the loop once and then for the even crazier part, we turn right when we leave the loop heading towards the summit, but instead we head down Blue Diamond. north on 15 and head to the Kawasaki dealer on Rancho where we could finish the ride with a BBQ.Using the BBQ idea Gleno came up with.

I also plan on notifying the police, NHP and the Rangers as well as the media. Heavy bike turnout+ heavy L.E. = media coverage

1000 degrees? one too many zeros. Good point about having a cause and a reason.

Reason: To promote safety awareness.

Donaton or cause: Red Ryders just did a ride for the family of the airmen that was killed last year by a hit and run van. We could charge a $5.00 donation for the ride and with the proceeds from the BBQ, donate the money to the airmen's family.

I like the idea, but I think Egami is right. Red Rock doesn't seem like a good place to Start/End/Meet. Some folks might get put off by that, and in turn, give the group negative publicity.

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I do respect everybody's opinions and those of you that think Red Rock is the wrong place to hold this ride, I do respect and understand your reasons that RR is too hot and the publicity could effect us negatively. All I ask is for you to open your mind to the idea and I will try to explain why this is the only place for a ride like this.

1. The focus of this ride is safety, not to change the laws giving us the right to rail through Red Rock because more experienced riders can handle it.

2. Educate non-riders as well as new and younger rders that safety is our top concern. These younger riders that have died lately might not have, if they knew of clubs such as ours, with highly experienced riders that could have mentored them.

A. Who do you think a young rider might listen to, L.E. that has never ridden a bike, giving them a big fat ticket and a B.S. lecture.
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B. A guy decked out in blk leathers, riding a Busa that carries himself as a man that knows his way around a motorcycle, (Brian).

3. Red Rock and the Blue Diamond area are the hottest traffic areas in the news as of late, for good reason. If we decided to do this ride, for instance at Lake Mead.

A. One- hundred bikes probably would go unnoticed, at RR we would definitely be noticed.

B. I talked to Gary Waddel, (the news anchor for Ch 8) for about 30 minutes at Arlen Ness during the Poker Run. He is a rider also
and was appointed to the state motorcycle safety board by the Governor, and did not seem predjudice towards sportbikers. I'm working through contacts to not only to get him to cover the ride, but participate in it as well. This would be alot easier if the ride was close to town, not to mention more news worthy.

C. Being that safety is the primary concern of this ride we will have ride captians, like one for every ten riders using folks from all
clubs supporting this ride to make sure we are on our best behavior. If someone starts acting like an idiot the ride captians will
stop the individual and separate that person from the group if needed. In other words, we WILL police ourselves so L.E. doesn't
have to.

4. The timing is perfect for an event like this, with the exception of it being a little warm outside. We have the chance to let our side of this issue be told and all we can do is our best to let everyone know that safety is a major concern of ours. If it doesn't work out perfectly, we will know that atleast we made the attempt.

Tom this is a great idea. I think you should start at one of the shops. Logistically it would be better for you.

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Great point, but I was thinking that if we get, at the bottom end, 100 riders it would be easier to stay together if we started at the overlook because we could move any overflow down to the open area by the exit to the loop. Plus we would never be able to get 100 bikes through our traffic lights.

Instead of having just a ride. Why not make a whole event out of it. Call it "Motorcyle Awareness Day" or something corny like that (people like corny!). Not only having an emphasis on Rider safety, but also on Driver awareness of motorcycles. Try to get all the local clubs involved, law enforcement, sponsors, etc (I'll even put up my Farmers Insurance canopy! (shameless plug)). Like a small fair/bike show sort of thing. I can see it taking some time to plan out, but I'm thinking it's something that can be done by September.

After more consideration I really like the idea of doing it at RR. I think maybe we should meet at Cycleshop or some where close to that. If we get the LVMPD involved maybe they could cordon off some lights for us so we could arrive as a huge group. Incorporating the media is key though as well as LVMPD I think.

What will we do once we get there at RR though....... Just sit around and stare at each other?



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You guys must be forgetting that this is going to happen this month.. Getting FEMA, Metro, Radio, and others is a bit of a jump.. Since the logistics haven't been worked out yet.

My opinion on this is that it is a good idea.. I am in no position to add much assistance, so I cannot give much advise. BUT, if this is to make safety a more practiced thing, then eliminate the ride aspect of it and make it an informational type event, i.e. go over basics such as proper gear, pre-ride inspection, Group riding techniques, and anything else you can think of.. No venders, or Charities, just some good ol information. Now putting something together like this with the involvement of the other clubs would be much easier to accomplish in such a short time.

In short, get the small things in place then start to think big. You all have great ideas, but do you have the time to dedicate to make this as big as you are suggesting.. 100 sportbikes at RR at the same time is traffic hell. I would love o see this work out to be that big, but i do not believe rolling with that many bikes is going to be easy at all.

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This is exactly the type of thing that we need to do and have been talking about. I think the route should be everywhere that bikers get in trouble and uh crash! It will show that we, as a group are aware of the issue and willing to actually do something.

I have to agree that this is a huge logistical thing and will take some time to properly prepare. All of the different government agencies involved would have to be in formed, press releases sent out, promotion done...etc.

If we do this...let's do it big and do it right!

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I think because of the number of riders that are involved, it would be hardo to make a ride out of it. I would prefer more like a fair/bike show setting. Set up a booths and stuff. have a bike show, how-to clinics, demos and stuff. I know its sounds big and a lot of work would be needed. Maybe, some promoters would like to join in. But I think it would be the best way to get the word out, because you would be able to attract non-bikers. I don't expect this done in a month, but can see this happening in the fall.

Love the idea, but i work saturday mornings. -- if i can help elsewise let me know

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Hi All at SCS:

I like the Idea is sound and is ready for the next step. We at VSR will help out with LVMPD because we have some Riders with us. I can leave a message with Sergeant Eric Lloyd of the LVMPD and ask if he and some of his 8 buddies would like to join us again for this Ride. I do respect the idea and with the help of other clubs we can have this setup up in a timely manner. So Tom you have VSR's support in this. Please contact me with any details about this ride, i.e. maps, routes, stops, meet up's, etc. and I will have team leader/Captains to help out with lights on the streets. I will see to it that my group takes the time off if needed to make this happen. I understand that some of us do work on the weekend. But a ride like this only comes once in a blue. I will see you there.

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