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Old 03-14-2010, 01:49 PM   #1
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Ok... I watched this a couple of times.

In the very last second you can see that there is a marked unit behind the motorcyclist. So this is not a total picture of the incident.. IE this guy was probably running or something and knew this guy was a cop.

But lets say there was no marked unit around. I could not identify this guy as a cop, marked unit, no lights, no I.D. markings IE jacket with "police" or what ever. He never identified himself. May be this guy was off duty I dont know.

LE knows to identify themselves, there have been so many blue on blue shootings, what is a non uniformed officer getting involved in a traffic incident for? Like I said I dont know the whole story.

Just a little different set of facts could have had a bad outcome, some guy jumps out of a car with a gun, its game on..

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Old 03-14-2010, 07:01 PM   #2
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I know that if that had happened to me... and I'm just being realistic here... but a guy hops out of his car with a gun, and I'm on my bike and I cant get to my gun, last thing I'm going to do is try to aggravate that guy more than he already is.

He already has a gun in his hand, and just a few feet away, I'm not reaching for anything. Especialy with gloves on. The guy with the gun in his hand makes the rules. You try to reach for something or talk some shit, you're likely to get shot. Who knows what is going thru his mind, I mean he already pulled a gun, he has the clear advantage in the situation.
 
 
Old 03-14-2010, 07:27 PM   #3
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Actually, it sounds like the guy said "state police" after he pulled his gun and asked the rider to get off the motorcycle. Maybe I heard it wrong. But as Pheer stated, it is damn near impossible to get the first shot off on someone with a drawn weapon.
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Old 03-14-2010, 07:33 PM   #4
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the officer had no reason to pull his weapon as far as I can see. as far as if that happened to me I would of thought about running in to the guy with my bike. Since he has a gun out on you chances are he is going to shoot you no matter what. He should of said he was a cop as soon as he got out of his car and had his badge or some kind of ID out. till that happens he is just some wack job with a gun.
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Old 03-14-2010, 08:38 PM   #5
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he said get off the motorcycle 2 times, and did not say state police or say he was an officer. like pheer said, the one who draws first makes the rules.
 
 
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Actually, he said get off the motorcycle twice and then as he walks up to the guy says State Police!!! There is also a marked car behind him!!
 
 
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Old 03-15-2010, 04:08 PM   #8
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At the very beginning of Video 2 it Looks like the cop was in front of him I cant quite make it out but then he veers right and busts a wheelie passing the possible UC and the chase was on since that.

Reckless driving at a minimum I'd guess.

As for the cop jumping out of the car and drawing his weapon. The first words out of his mouth should've been STATE POLICE no if ands or buts after it plays you can see what looks like a badge on his right hip belt.

A cop doesnt know why your driving like that he just knows your/he was driving like an arse.
He doesnt know if he just commited a bank robbery or stole that bike or if hes wanted or armed and dangerous
He had every right to pull his weapon for his own saftey. He just shouldv'e ID himself rightaway as an officer

Couldve gone really bad
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At 1:06 he passes a marked cruiser in the median... Then passes the UM at about 2:28 and attempts to exit.

I wonder what the cop was planning on shooting if the dude split? The tires?
 
 
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At 1:06 he passes a marked cruiser in the median... Then passes the UM at about 2:28 and attempts to exit.

I wonder what the cop was planning on shooting if the dude split? The tires?
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:13 PM   #11
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Actually, he said get off the motorcycle twice and then as he walks up to the guy says State Police!!! There is also a marked car behind him!!
damn, how did i miss that? yeah, he said it after the fact.
 
 
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Good find on the rest of the video Ken. I didn't even think to look for that!!
 
 
Old 04-12-2010, 10:30 PM   #13
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This guy gets charged with a felony

his crime

Recording the police with out their permission.

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Old 04-12-2010, 11:35 PM   #14
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This guy gets charged with a felony

his crime

Recording the police with out their permission.

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I would fight that one big time! They are stretching with that charge
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This guy gets charged with a felony

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Recording the police with out their permission.

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What a load of horse shit!!The cop gave his concent by knowingly walking in view of the obvious camera and not asking him to turn it off.
 
 
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[QUOTE=Lost Sheep;135434]Ok... I watched this a couple of times.

In the very last second you can see that there is a marked unit behind the motorcyclist. So this is not a total picture of the incident.. IE this guy was probably running or something and knew this guy was a cop.

But lets say there was no marked unit around. I could not identify this guy as a cop, marked unit, no lights, no I.D. markings IE jacket with "police" or what ever. He never identified himself. May be this guy was off duty I dont know.

LE knows to identify themselves, there have been so many blue on blue shootings, what is a non uniformed officer getting involved in a traffic incident for? Like I said I dont know the whole story.

Just a little different set of facts could have had a bad outcome, some guy jumps out of a car with a gun, its game on..



Here's an idea...kinda simple...just don't get yourself in that position. Don't be a dumb arse on the roads.
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Old 04-13-2010, 04:55 PM   #17
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What a load of horse shit!!The cop gave his concent by knowingly walking in view of the obvious camera and not asking him to turn it off.


NRS 289.025 Confidentiality of home address and photograph of peace officer in possession of law enforcement agency; exceptions.
1. Except as otherwise provided in subsections 2 and 3 and NRS 239.0115, the home address and any photograph of a peace officer in the possession of a law enforcement agency are not public information and are confidential.
2. The photograph of a peace officer may be released:
(a) If the peace officer authorizes the release; or
(b) If the peace officer has been arrested.
3. The home address of a peace officer may be released if a peace officer has been arrested and the home address is included in any of the following:
(a) A report of a 911 telephone call.
(b) A police report, investigative report or complaint which a person filed with a law enforcement agency.
(c) A statement made by a witness.
(d) A report prepared pursuant to NRS 432B.540 by an agency which provides child welfare services, which report details a plan for the placement of a child.
(Added to NRS by 2005, 621; A 2007, 2087, 2815)
 
 
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LOL you can see the rider started walking his bike back, as in an attempt to go around unmarked blocking his escape. But this officer thinks he's Top Fucking Cop, hahaha! Just because he's rolling around in an unmarked car and doesn't have to wear a uniform. Well at least he didn't tackle the rider or kick his bike over. I mean if you're gonna pull a gun on rider wouldn't that be the next move. Mr. Pheer said it best...the one who draws first makes the rules.
 
 
Old 07-26-2010, 02:19 PM   #19
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NRS 289.025 Confidentiality of home address and photograph of peace officer in possession of law enforcement agency; exceptions.
1. Except as otherwise provided in subsections 2 and 3 and NRS 239.0115, the home address and any photograph of a peace officer in the possession of a law enforcement agency are not public information and are confidential.
2. The photograph of a peace officer may be released:
(a) If the peace officer authorizes the release; or
(b) If the peace officer has been arrested.
3. The home address of a peace officer may be released if a peace officer has been arrested and the home address is included in any of the following:
(a) A report of a 911 telephone call.
(b) A police report, investigative report or complaint which a person filed with a law enforcement agency.
(c) A statement made by a witness.
(d) A report prepared pursuant to NRS 432B.540 by an agency which provides child welfare services, which report details a plan for the placement of a child.
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This only relates to photos of the police officer which are in possession of the police department. If I posted a photo of an officer and said he is a metro officer I dont think this law applies to that situation. Or if I video tape a metro officer who shoots at an unarmed handcuffed suspect that will not fall into the category either
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Making a recording of a police traffic stop is not a crime in the opinion of Maryland’s attorney general. In a ruling issued last month from the state’s top law enforcement office, Chief Counsel Robert N. McDonald found the legal grounds weak for felony wiretapping charges of the type brought against a motorcyclist who posted a video of himself being arrested on YouTube. Maryland State Police had taken advantage of ambiguity in the law to prosecute Anthony Graber, 25 for the April 13 recording.

“No appellate decision in Maryland specifically addresses the application of that law to recording of police activity,” McDonald wrote in his opinion.

Graber had been stopped for speeding on Interstate 95. While driving an unmarked car in plain clothes, Maryland State Trooper Joseph David Uhler cut off Graber as he brought his motorcycle to a stop. Uhler then jumped out of his car, gun drawn, commanding, “Get off the motorcycle” before identifying himself. Graber had a camera on his helmet that recorded the entire incident, which he later posted on YouTube (view video). The sight of Uhler wielding his weapon in public over a traffic infraction drew a storm of criticism. Uhler responded by ordering his colleagues to raid Graber’s residence and confiscate all of his computer equipment as evidence of wiretapping. By filing charges that could send Graber to prison for sixteen years, the state police wanted to send a clear message to anyone who might consider documenting police misconduct in the future.

Under the interpretation of the state police and prosecutors, a police officer has an expectation of privacy while working on public streets. Ordinary citizens on those same streets, however, have no such expectation and are subjected to constant monitoring by the state’s red light cameras, speed cameras and recently expanded automated license plate recognition systems. The attorney general’s office examined the question of whether the conversation in a traffic stop constituted an “oral conversation” that is “intercepted” under the wiretap act if a citizen records the arrest. After considering a related attorney general ruling from 2000, McDonald ruled that there is no difference between a police officer and a citizen as far as the statute is concerned.

“The reasoning of that excerpt, which suggested that a police officer would not face prosecution or liability under the act for recording an arrest or traffic stop in a public place, would apply equally well to a private person involved in the same incident,” McDonald wrote.

Several other states, with the exception of Massachusetts, have developed case law that clearly allows the recording of police traffic stops. The attorney general’s ruling did not directly consider the details of the Graber case, but it concluded that the most likely outcome should it come to trial would be acquittal.

“A court could hold that a police stop of an individual necessarily is not a ‘private conversation’ and therefore does not involve an oral communication covered by the state wiretap act,” McDonald ruled. “This conclusion would be consistent with the suggestion made in the 2000 opinion and with the holdings of the courts in most other states construing state eavesdropping statutes. Given the language of the Maryland statutes, this seems the most likely outcome in the case of a detention or arrest.”
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Didn't she promoted to Lt or above???
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