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Old June 30th @ 06:04 pm   #31
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From: Northwest

Motorcycle: Kawasaki Ninja 250R
Okay. You're riding. Some car pulls up right next to you and the guy jumps out with a gun.... Doesn't matter if it's waved or not, that's still uncalled for. The officer didn't identify himself as an officer as police until he was touching the motorcycle, after having yelled at the biker to get off his bike three times. Up until that point he was just a stranger with a gun telling him to get off his bike...

 
 
Old June 30th @ 06:58 pm   #32
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From: HENDERSON

Motorcycle: 01 YAMAHA R-6
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This motorcyclist is facing 16 years in jail for having a gun waved in his face

Man Faces 16 Years For Videotaping Police Traffic Stop (And Posting It On Youtube) - YouTube
This piece of shit cop should go to jail himself, there was no reason at all for him to fly up beside that bike and pull a gun period, cause the marked cop was right there so there was no need to hold the the guy till the on duty cop got there. I'm shure it was so he could show off. Cops these days audio and video record every move they make to protect themselves from frivalous accusation, y is it wrong for us to record them to protect ourselves from there actions.
 
 
Old June 30th @ 07:06 pm   #33
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From: HENDERSON

Motorcycle: 01 YAMAHA R-6
I'm not defending this motorcyclist, he's a dumb ass who was endangering the lives of others with his actions but his actions are what he was recording not that dumb ass cop, that dumb ass cop is the one who put himself in that video wanting to be some bad ass off duty vigilanty. Fuck'em put them both in jail.
 
 
Old June 30th @ 07:27 pm   #34
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From: The Devil's Playground

Motorcycle: Shift Red 2005 Yamaha YZF-R1
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Okay. You're riding. Some car pulls up right next to you and the guy jumps out with a gun.... Doesn't matter if it's waved or not, that's still uncalled for. The officer didn't identify himself as an officer as police until he was touching the motorcycle, after having yelled at the biker to get off his bike three times. Up until that point he was just a stranger with a gun telling him to get off his bike...
I don't disagree with you there...but that's not what you wrote in your original post, so that's what I was commenting on.

I FULLY agree with you that the officer was wrong and should have identified himself AS he was EXITING his vehicle AS he was drawing his firearm. It appears to me that the rider didn't "turn on" the sound to his YouTube video until the officer got out of his vehicle. It is possible that it was an undercover car and the siren did go off as he pulled up to indicate it was an emergency vehicle. I don't know because I couldn't hear it. Plus, it's possible there were lights in the grille or on the dash that we couldn't see on his video as well, that indicated to the rider that it was an emergency vehicle. Then again, it's possible that there were no lights or siren.

However, either way, the officer SHOULD HAVE identified himself IMMEDIATELY upon exiting his vehicle. I fully agree with you on that. I would have been upset about that if I was the rider. Because you are right, he doesn't know initially if it's some psycho with a firearm trying to take his bike or if it's a law enforcement officer trying to effect a stop. The only thing I can think of is that the rider looked back in his mirrors and saw the marked unit behind him and figured the person in front of him was a undercover officer. However, that doesn't mean he shouldn't have identified himself.
 
 
Old June 30th @ 09:56 pm   #35
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From: Las Vegas

Motorcycle: CBR 1000rr/600f4i
Fuck that shit, I would have hit the gas as soon as that guy got out of the car. No point in sticking around, it can only get worse from there...
 
 
Old July 1st @ 12:38 am   #36
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From: Northwest

Motorcycle: Kawasaki Ninja 250R
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I don't disagree with you there...but that's not what you wrote in your original post, so that's what I was commenting on.

I FULLY agree with you that the officer was wrong and should have identified himself AS he was EXITING his vehicle AS he was drawing his firearm. It appears to me that the rider didn't "turn on" the sound to his YouTube video until the officer got out of his vehicle. It is possible that it was an undercover car and the siren did go off as he pulled up to indicate it was an emergency vehicle. I don't know because I couldn't hear it. Plus, it's possible there were lights in the grille or on the dash that we couldn't see on his video as well, that indicated to the rider that it was an emergency vehicle. Then again, it's possible that there were no lights or siren.

However, either way, the officer SHOULD HAVE identified himself IMMEDIATELY upon exiting his vehicle. I fully agree with you on that. I would have been upset about that if I was the rider. Because you are right, he doesn't know initially if it's some psycho with a firearm trying to take his bike or if it's a law enforcement officer trying to effect a stop. The only thing I can think of is that the rider looked back in his mirrors and saw the marked unit behind him and figured the person in front of him was a undercover officer. However, that doesn't mean he shouldn't have identified himself.
Don't care even if he had lights and sirens. I know a chicano down on MLK who sells red and blue lights. If I ever get lit up by a truly undercover cop (not the guys in the plane paint police cruisers) I'm just gonna keep going until a legitimate police car shows up.
 
 
Old July 2nd @ 08:34 pm   #37
 
From: Las Vegas

Motorcycle: 2012 Ducati Diavel
I think the real point is that the rider, regardless of his wrecklessness, shouldn't be facing charges for wiretapping. It is legal to video record in a public domain, i.e. an interstate roadway. This is very public. Wiretapping was intended for phone conversations where participating parties must be informed of a recording and must consent.
 
 
Old July 4th @ 07:21 am   #38
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From: The Devil's Playground

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I think the real point is that the rider, regardless of his wrecklessness, shouldn't be facing charges for wiretapping. It is legal to video record in a public domain, i.e. an interstate roadway. This is very public. Wiretapping was intended for phone conversations where participating parties must be informed of a recording and must consent.
+1 on this
 
 
Old July 4th @ 07:29 am   #39
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From: Las Vegas

Motorcycle: 2009 Honda CBR600RR & 2007 Honda VFR800
Yea, the wire tapping beef is BS. This is sort of thing just give the coppers bad reps.
 
 
Old July 4th @ 07:37 am   #40
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From: The Devil's Playground

Motorcycle: Shift Red 2005 Yamaha YZF-R1
True, but remember, it will be thrown out before the rider even gets to court, most likely. What most people don't realize is that just because an officer charges you with a crime doesn't mean that you will be convicted/punished for it. There are lots of times that when the case goes up to the City Attorney or District Attorney's offices and they look it over, they dismiss some of the charges because they realize the charge/s doesn't/don't pertain to the case and/or are unlawful for the circumstances in which they were applied. So, it gets dropped even before the violator (in this case, the rider) even goes before the judge to be tried.

So, even though the rider was charged with wiretapping by the officer, it doesn't mean it will stick and/or even be seen by the court. Does that mean he should have been charged with it in the first place? Absolutely not; because it's a bogus charge and makes the officer and the rest of the police around the country look bad in this case, unfortunately.
 
 

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